Re: Crushed Cars
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:01:09 -0800 (PST)
You wrote <<that was when it was a sport, not **Show-Biz.**>>

"Blood Sport" might be more accurate -- The drivers were killed off pretty regularily back then -
;-\


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----- Original Message ----- From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: <Red5hilser [at] aol.com>; <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars



Hey Lash: No doubt the Hill was an outatanding driver, one of the best, if not, on any given day, the best. I first saw him drive in So. Cal. starting in the mid-1950's. Always in Ferraris, and he was my hero. Eventually, I was in his pit so much that nobody even asked me me name or why I was there.

There is still speculation as to the causes of the shunt at Monza that was fatal, not only to von Tripps, but to 15 spectators as well. The quick and simple answer was that Jim Clark, in his Lotus, brushed against Tripps, spinng him off course, up?an outside?bank, and against that flimsy chain-link fence, killing himself and the other 15 poor souls.

But I've always heard that the young Ferrari rookie, Ricardo Rodriquez, driving 11 tenths, as usual, forced Clark into Tripps. Tripps, with Hill had qualified on the front row, but a bad start put him in among the front runners, behind Hill, and he was trying to catch up. After all, the WDC was riding on this one race,?plus?Ricardo was trying to impress Ferrari on their home track. A certain recipe for disaster, I think.

BTW, Robert Daley, in his book, 'The Cruel Sport,' said that the top GP drivers were making $20,000 dollars a year back then. LMFAO! But that was when it was a sport, not **Show-Biz.**

Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

From: LS
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars



Willi, the 156 had more bhp and Hill wasn't too shabby behind the wheel!

----- Original Message ----
From: Bubba
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars

Hey Larry: The Chevrolet Division of GM did the same thing to all the Corvette
race cars that they had loaned to Roger Penske for the season back in 'the
days.' Only thing was, that the GM employee in charge of the crushing, being the
car-nut that he was, misplaced one. It's still out there somewhere. I read about
it in R&T years ago. I think they were raced in the old Trans-Am series.


And as far as the long-gone 1961 156 shark noses, Phil Hill drove an exact
replica (except for the nose badge) that Chris Rhea had built for his
documentary film in Wolfgang von Tripps. After about 20 minutes of track time,
Phil came in and said that it was very apparent?that it was?nothing like the
original factory?156. Unlike the Team cars, this one was well built and?didn't
have?the rather shoddy construction or?feel of Enzo's machines.


IMHO, the only reason that Hill won the WDC was that the V-6 Ferrari engine had
a 40-50 horsepower advantage over the Brits. Not withstanding that his only
rival, Tripps was killed in the last, and deciding race held at Monza
On real drivers courses, the 156 didn't do too well, with Stirling Moss winning
at Monte Carlo, and I think, the old Nurburgring. Somebody out there will have
to check for?me on the latter.


Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba


-----Original Message----- From: LarryT Subject: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars



Howdy -

I assume everyone knows that Enzo had some of his race cars (like the
shark nosed F1 cars that took Phil Hill to become World Champion) crushed
after they became obsolete. Just heard the 1st 2 prototypes of the XKE were
also crushed.


   I'm wondering why they crushed them?  Protecting secrets? eccentric?
some other reason?

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