Re: Betrayal of Journalists
From: Ken Rentiers (rentiersmac.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
MIchael how is it consistent to own a car owned almost exclusively by greedy capitalist pigs like us F-listers and at the same time become so enamored of rabid socialists like Obama/Clinton? I mean either you spend your days giving Ferrari thrill rides to the "homeless" under the local overpass or you are just polishing your fine car to sell so you can take the bucks and re-distribute your ill-gotten assets right? Assuage some of the ol' liberal guilt?

I mean - you don't actually deserve the car, do you? You are just one of the "lucky" fortunate few, you never really worked for a living while others cooled their butts on a bench sucking up the ol' Night Train 20-20 or Thunderbird in a paper bag. Did you?

Surely for an intelligent guy like you that would not compute!

Just sayin'


ken




On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Michael James wrote:


Funny you should mention....I was sitting at the local cigar bar last
night, when the bartender was too distracted to notice after the
Celtics game- the 700 Club 'slipped' onto the flat-screen behind the
bar....and lo-and-behold was an investigative piece on Democrats and
Evangelicals. There was a great deal of discussion regarding Obama's
pastor (a former US Marine, I might add) as well as other Pastors in
in Obama's corner...guys like Rick Warren. If Pastors like Rick
Warren are getting Obama's ear......I'm not worried. Didn't Rev.
Billy Graham 'advise' Nixon?



I don't judge a man by what he listens to - in MY country, we're
allowed to listen to things we don't personally agree with and come to
our own conclusions. I'd be more inclined to judge Obama by what he
has done, and what he-himself has come to believe. Perhaps that's
where you Neo-Cons have a problem - you can only listen to things that
you already agree with, and refuse to listen to things that don't
already 'align' with your version of the truth or reality. This might
explain the popularity of Michael Savage....after he's been fired
repeatedly for making inflammatory, Anti-Semitic statements.



Show me the last time a Republican's pastor has ever come-under such scrutiny. Who are Bush/Cheney's Pastor? Now there's a man who has some explaining to do.....who would Jesus bomb, again?

  --- On Fri, 3/14/08, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

From: LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Betrayal of Journalists
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Date: Friday, March 14, 2008, 9:16 PM
not sure where you get your information but I've never heard a Republican or
conservative *ever* say they were perfect or even close to it. But this countr
y
was founded on Christian *values* mostly as they are defined in the 10
Commandments - this is not to say other religions are not welcomed as they
definately are - but the founding fathers were for the most part Christian.


back to present day, as Christians we *try* to live a good life, but being
human we often fail. I know I have and probaby will again. Perhaps you
think that's a being hypocritical --


Liberals are well, different.

But I;m not going to convince you of anything or change your mind. the
ill-conceived notions are too deeply seated I fear ;-)


As far as a former Fox employeee being picked to be the Press secretary - what
would *you* do - choose your greatest enemy to represent you? Perhaps someone
who has shown they will lie and distort anything having to do with you just to
make you look bad? Hmmmm....


As far as obama's pastor - listen to one of his "sermons" and
tell me if you think it's appropriate for the President to listen to - and
by association of over 20 years - agree with at least *some* of it - there are
plenty of sites with recordings of his sermons - it's like listening to
hitler give a pep talk. Yeah, very appropriate.


HAve a nice weekend - I'm outta here -
(for now)
Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Michael James
 To: LarryT
 Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Betrayal of Journalists


I disagree - the 'liberal media' I've purveyed told me
Spitzer was a Democrat - then again, perhaps Dems are smart enough to realize
how polarized the country has become and are smart enough, thus, to logically
deduce that no Republican actually endorces a Democrat for President anymore.




I quote Fox News, because as you obviously point out, they present the
Neo-Con vewpoint - the idea that their reporting is 'Fair and Balanced'
is a blatant lie. Are you still guessing how and why a Farce-News anchor was
tapped to be Bush's Mouthpiece to the rest of the press? You don't get
to wear the 'Fair and Balanced' medal on your lapel when a deeply- polar
political party blatantly and overtly shows you favoritism to the whole world
like that.




Be careful when you rant about whether or not someone goes to the
'right' Church or not....you're forgetting that the Pilgrims came
here just to get-away from that crap back in England. Tell me - when they come
after YOUR church, where will you be moving to? A bunker in the Dakota hills?
Please take Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh with you....I hear their Churches
allow drunks and pill-poppers to attend. You "free-thinkers" can
have a heck of a party....




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