Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Larry T and Sarti...

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I remember being the pits at Riverside, the short lived Ontario, Stardust 
when Jim Hall checked his mirror and ran into back of another car sending 
him flying and a spectator removed him from what was left of his car. Willow 
springs. Yes it was better for the fans back then. Then BIG MONEY and Safety 
got involved.

When you get the TIME MACHINE working I want to correct a mistake I made in 
1989

at Laguna Seca :-)

Stephen

81 308 GTSi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

To: "Stephen" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
Ahhh - the LA Times GP - I remember waiting anxiously every year for the

coverage in the magazines of the Times GP - it was an incredible time for

our sport (mid-late 60s into the mid 70s) IMHO.  Since I was on the east

coast I had little hope of getting there, but once in a great while 
there'd

be a program on TV showing the race.   Loved the Ferrari's & Porsche's but

the Lola T70s were near the top of my list & the little Lotus 19s & 23s,

etc. were amazing.  Seeing them on TV & in photos in the pits, etc near

people so a good indication of their lowness was visible  & they were 
coming

up to people's  *knees*  for Christ's Sake!     They were amazing.  I saw

one recently at the Historic Mille Miglia IIRC - perfect in every detail.

But, I think I definately like them better when the "as raced" patina is

preserved.
I know I take heat sometime (usually from Dennis L) about me going on 
about

how much better things were in the past - maybe I'm wrong, but I thought 
the

cars were more beautiful and the drivers more able (because of 
contractural

demands I suspect) to drive anything, anytime.  As you mentioned, back in

the 60s all the big F1 pilots were competing in a F1 race on Sunday and 
24H

of LeMans the following Saturday & Sunday.  Probably has to do with the

reqmnts of the teams and the high tech machinery needing extended

acclimitaztion (sp?)
Can't wait til I get my Time Machine finished!   Won't be long now!
Thanks for prompting those great memries - have a nice week -  now I need 
to

find Gurney;s book so I can see you!
Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>

To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:40 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
Yea, it was in the mid 60's at Riverside Raceway. Every year the L.A.

Times Grand Prix for sports cars was held in in October, and Clark was

driving a beautiful British racing green Lotus 19. Back in those days the

typical grid was filled with F1 names like Clark, both Phil and Graham

Hill, Dan Gurney, Masten Gregory, Ritchie Ginther, plus American Sports

Car and USAC regulars like Roger Penske, Jim Hall, Parnelli Jones, and

A.J. Foyt, among a host of others. A standout was in 1958, when 17

year-old Ricardo Rodriquez brought his brand new silver RSK Spyder for 
the

under 2 litre portion of the race. He kicked everybody's ass, including

Ken Miles. WOW!
Access to the paddock/pit area was no problem either. We either used one
press pass for entry, then passed it over the fence to get the other
people in our party?in, one by one, or just simply bluffed our way in.
Remember Doug? Wandering the pits was no problem either. I've got a a
photo of my son, Willi Dieter sitting in the cockpit of Nelson Piquet's
Brabham in the pits at Long Beach in the '70s.
If anyone has a copy of John Zimmermann's book, 'Dan Gurney's Eagle 
Racing

Cars,' turn to page 42. Yea, that's me in the picture, holding the

refueling hose, over the wall in the hot pits helping,?while Dan refuled

during a pitstop on his way to winning the 1967 Rex Mayes 300 Indy Car

race at Riverside.
Ach, those were the days --? Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

-----Original Message-----
From: Regards
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...

Larry.....

Super story about Colin Chapman and your friend! Obviously, the concept 
of

customer service wasn't wasted on Mr. Chapman. I was a big Jim Clark and

Lotus fan in early/mid 60's, before Chapman's creations started killing

drivers.  It is too bad that both Clark and Chapman were taken much form

us

much too early. Ferrari Willi (aka, Bubba) had the good fortune to meet

Jim

Clark and described him as friendly and reserved. Ach, those were the

days.

Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: LarryT
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
Oh yeah, it's all coming back now.  It's obviously time for me to watch 
it

again ;-)  Actually, my wife bought me a copy of GP on DVD not too long

ago - I already have a copy on VHS so my collection is complete - maybe a

little too complete --
Anyway, time to watch it again and refrech my memory.  You;re right about

the missing Lotus - very unfortunate as they were the ultimate team at 
the

time.  Course, knowing how CC operated he probably asked for a piece of

the

action in exchange for his team's participation!  Even if it was just his

logo!  He was ever vigilent for funding.
I had a Lotus years ago as did a friend.  One Saturday he was working on
his
and had a question/   He got on the phone and called UK - got thru to

Lotus

and asked to speak to someone about a technical question.  A few minutes

later a Brit answered and helped him with his problem.   As they were

getting ready to say good bye my friend asked for his name so he could 
add

it to his notes for future reference (engineers, you know how we are) 
and

to his surprice the voice on the phone says Colin CHapman.  How cool is

THAT?
Well, better go - time to do some grilling -
;-)
Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Petrick" <rtpetrick [at] comcast.net>

To: "'LarryT'" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:17 PM

Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
It was Brian Bedford playing the quintessential Brit racer, Scott

Stoddard.....supposedly a Jim Clark clone. The logic broke down however,

as

Lotus was not represented in the film, so Stoddard drove for Jordan BRM

(interesting team name). Further, if I remember correctly, Stoddard's

helmet

had a band of Tartan plaid around it, similar to Jackie Stewart. I don't

think the film ever identified clearly whether Stoddard was English or

Scottish, but his dead brother, Roger, drove a BRG Vanwall F1, with 
which

Scott kicked off the second act after the intermission. The sound of the

idle was really great with the lumpy full-race cam.
Regards

About the air cannon - I knew it was used to send Garner into Monaco

Harbor

and I believe the guy who was passing Garner at that moment (what was 
his

name? it's on the tip of my tongue!) that nearly ended his career was

sent

against the rock wall -

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Re: Larry T and Sarti...	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Stephen Sherman (shermanwildblue.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:52:53 -0700 (PDT)