Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Larry T and Sarti...

[LarryT (l02turner]

Ahhh - the LA Times GP - I remember waiting anxiously every year for the 
coverage in the magazines of the Times GP - it was an incredible time for 
our sport (mid-late 60s into the mid 70s) IMHO.  Since I was on the east 
coast I had little hope of getting there, but once in a great while there'd 
be a program on TV showing the race.   Loved the Ferrari's & Porsche's but 
the Lola T70s were near the top of my list & the little Lotus 19s & 23s, 
etc. were amazing.  Seeing them on TV & in photos in the pits, etc near 
people so a good indication of their lowness was visible  & they were coming 
up to people's  *knees*  for Christ's Sake!     They were amazing.  I saw 
one recently at the Historic Mille Miglia IIRC - perfect in every detail. 
But, I think I definately like them better when the "as raced" patina is 
preserved.

I know I take heat sometime (usually from Dennis L) about me going on about 
how much better things were in the past - maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the 
cars were more beautiful and the drivers more able (because of contractural 
demands I suspect) to drive anything, anytime.  As you mentioned, back in 
the 60s all the big F1 pilots were competing in a F1 race on Sunday and 24H 
of LeMans the following Saturday & Sunday.  Probably has to do with the 
reqmnts of the teams and the high tech machinery needing extended 
acclimitaztion (sp?)

Can't wait til I get my Time Machine finished!   Won't be long now!

Thanks for prompting those great memries - have a nice week -  now I need to 
find Gurney;s book so I can see you!

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...


> Yea, it was in the mid 60's at Riverside Raceway. Every year the L.A. 
> Times Grand Prix for sports cars was held in in October, and Clark was 
> driving a beautiful British racing green Lotus 19. Back in those days the 
> typical grid was filled with F1 names like Clark, both Phil and Graham 
> Hill, Dan Gurney, Masten Gregory, Ritchie Ginther, plus American Sports 
> Car and USAC regulars like Roger Penske, Jim Hall, Parnelli Jones, and 
> A.J. Foyt, among a host of others. A standout was in 1958, when 17 
> year-old Ricardo Rodriquez brought his brand new silver RSK Spyder for the 
> under 2 litre portion of the race. He kicked everybody's ass, including 
> Ken Miles. WOW!
>
> Access to the paddock/pit area was no problem either. We either used one 
> press pass for entry, then passed it over the fence to get the other 
> people in our party?in, one by one, or just simply bluffed our way in. 
> Remember Doug? Wandering the pits was no problem either. I've got a a 
> photo of my son, Willi Dieter sitting in the cockpit of Nelson Piquet's 
> Brabham in the pits at Long Beach in the '70s.
>
> If anyone has a copy of John Zimmermann's book, 'Dan Gurney's Eagle Racing 
> Cars,' turn to page 42. Yea, that's me in the picture, holding the 
> refueling hose, over the wall in the hot pits helping,?while Dan refuled 
> during a pitstop on his way to winning the 1967 Rex Mayes 300 Indy Car 
> race at Riverside.
>
> Ach, those were the days --? Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regards
> Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
>
>
>
> Larry.....
> Super story about Colin Chapman and your friend! Obviously, the concept of
> customer service wasn't wasted on Mr. Chapman. I was a big Jim Clark and
> Lotus fan in early/mid 60's, before Chapman's creations started killing
> drivers.  It is too bad that both Clark and Chapman were taken much form 
> us
> much too early. Ferrari Willi (aka, Bubba) had the good fortune to meet 
> Jim
> Clark and described him as friendly and reserved. Ach, those were the 
> days.
>
>
> Regards
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LarryT
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
>
> Oh yeah, it's all coming back now.  It's obviously time for me to watch it
> again ;-)  Actually, my wife bought me a copy of GP on DVD not too long
> ago - I already have a copy on VHS so my collection is complete - maybe a
> little too complete --
>
> Anyway, time to watch it again and refrech my memory.  You;re right about
> the missing Lotus - very unfortunate as they were the ultimate team at the
> time.  Course, knowing how CC operated he probably asked for a piece of 
> the
> action in exchange for his team's participation!  Even if it was just his
> logo!  He was ever vigilent for funding.
>
> I had a Lotus years ago as did a friend.  One Saturday he was working on 
> his
>
> and had a question/   He got on the phone and called UK - got thru to 
> Lotus
> and asked to speak to someone about a technical question.  A few minutes
> later a Brit answered and helped him with his problem.   As they were
> getting ready to say good bye my friend asked for his name so he could add
> it to his notes for future reference (engineers, you know how we are)  and
> to his surprice the voice on the phone says Colin CHapman.  How cool is
> THAT?
>
> Well, better go - time to do some grilling -
> ;-)
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dick Petrick" <rtpetrick [at] comcast.net>
> To: "'LarryT'" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Larry T and Sarti...
>
>
> > It was Brian Bedford playing the quintessential Brit racer, Scott
> > Stoddard.....supposedly a Jim Clark clone. The logic broke down however,
> > as
> > Lotus was not represented in the film, so Stoddard drove for Jordan BRM
> > (interesting team name). Further, if I remember correctly, Stoddard's
> > helmet
> > had a band of Tartan plaid around it, similar to Jackie Stewart. I don't
> > think the film ever identified clearly whether Stoddard was English or
> > Scottish, but his dead brother, Roger, drove a BRG Vanwall F1, with which
> > Scott kicked off the second act after the intermission. The sound of the
> > idle was really great with the lumpy full-race cam.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > About the air cannon - I knew it was used to send Garner into Monaco
> > Harbor
> > and I believe the guy who was passing Garner at that moment (what was his
> > name? it's on the tip of my tongue!) that nearly ended his career was 
> > sent
> > against the rock wall -
>
>
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