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Re: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
From: Ferrarisimo [at] Comcast.net (Ferrarisimocomcast.net)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:03:51 -0800 (PST)
When you go, I have a great attorney there that specializes in financial matters. 

Scottie

On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote:


PREACH ON, BRUTHA RAINBOLT!
I'm still planning on a trip to the Caymans sometime soon. It would be great 
for you and Wendy to join us on a little "econo-toursim."

SJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Ric Rainbolt [mailto:ricrainbolt [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:12 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?

Flame on...
You're DEAD wrong. I've paid it, and I complained about it then and I'll complain about it now. If you think it's about the small amount of money it adds to the overall purchase price, then you miss the ENTIRE point. It's about paying EVEN MORE money to the FedGov Corp than almost any other person I know. Then, making things much more tolerable, I'm told by someone who 
doesn't pay such fees that I'm not patriotic for complaining about it.
Gotchas and fees that are designed specifically to soak the rich are IMMORAL 
and have no basis except class envy and income redistribution. For
2000-2007, my wife's and my Federal Tax Burden was larger than ALL MY OTHER EXPENSES COMBINED. That's right, over 50% of our monthly outlays was Federal Taxes. Having to pay another $10,000 just for the privilege of owning a car 
that I worked hard all my life to afford is OFFENSIVE at the least.
If you think such taxes don't have a squelching effect, then you're DEAD wrong (again). It was a major consideration that caused me to avoid a new 348 and a new 355. I bought used specifically to avoid the luxury tax and 
gas guzzler taxes. One only needs to look to the luxury tax and how it
absolutely KILLED the yacht business in this country. Not all new Ferrari buyers are rock stars and celebrities with millions to blow. According to some older Ferrari info (I don't know about now), over half their buyers are businessmen and individuals making relatively nominal salaries, so $10,000 or $20,000 is still a sting. But it's more about seeing that combined with 
paying tremendous amounts of other taxes as well.

Funny how so many people who don't pay and have never paid significant
amounts of taxes think that those who do are just whining about it.
Frankly, I'm tired of being the butt-monkey of a society full of whiners and beggars. When my parents pass, I'm outta here. Let some other chump pay for 
the bullshit.


RR


At 08:54 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote:

I'm not saying the tax is a good/bad thing, but it is ironic that
people who have not paid the Guzzler tax (and who aren't in a position to pay it anytime soon) are the ones who are complaining about it, and 
the people who actually DO pay this Guzzler tax aren't complaining at
all.....the addition of this surcharge is insignificant relative to the 
other expenses incurred with the car.
What they ARE complaining about is getting the car in the first place, 
getting it with the options they ordered, and how much over-sticker
they have to pay to be the first one on their block to have the
latest-and-greatest in their driveway (which adds much-more to the
sticker than anything else).  The Guzzler tax is not, nor has it ever
been, a financial deterrent to anyone in-the-market for new machines.
It only gets paid once...

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> wrote:

From: Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:47 AM

Right!  They're rich enough, so we should just extract the $$ from
them. If they can afford a gold stripe, they certainly should pay some 
money to the government!

:-?

-matt
'85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine...

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James
<cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

LOL, you're funny Larry.

NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a new Ferrari walk into a
dealership and go: "Damn, I could 'just' afford a new 430, but I can't afford the car with that Gas Guzzler tax added on! My dreams are over, 
I'm going to have to go buy a Buick now.....Damn those Washington
Socialists, boo-hoo.....sniff..."


Please - buyers are spending several thousand$$$ extra to have those
gold
stripes painted on their Scuderia's hood to match the color of the rims and have the seat-stitching threads contrast the seat leather. Do you think any of these 'extras' make the car go faster? These folks don't care about the money, good for them. Care to guess that the California 
won't sell well, even in this economy?
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