Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing TheirGood Looks? )

[jashburne (jashburne]

So Mike, in all of your compassion coupled with your faith that taxes should be 
higher because the government is the most able to determine how to redistribute 
your and our wealth, I'd like to ask you the following questions:

1.  Do you voluntarily send in more taxes than you owe so that the government 
can distribut your compassionate donation?

2.  If you answered "yes", how much did you donate in either $ or percentage of 
your gross income?

3.  If you answer "no" then please tell us why not and also why you feel that 
it is ethical to tell us that we should pay more taxes when you yourself don't 
do that.

Have a good day, I am looking forward to your answer.

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:17:19 
To: <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing Their
 Good Looks? )


OK

So your lack of compassion is showing here...

No its not your fault, and maybe it wasn't  Mr DD's choice to not get an 
education, or go to school or hone his skills...  Maybe the guy just 
isn't equipped for doing much more than digging a ditch for a living?

It sounds like there is a feeling here that people getting help from the 
Government are miscreants spending on beer or committing fraud.  And I 
am sure there are cases of that.  I just can't believe that it is 
everyone who benefits from the system, you may believe it, but I do not.

Also I checked:   Total budget for 2008 5237 Billion.  Spent on 
welfare:  ~450 Billion (8.5%)...  The government spends twice that 
amount on health care and nearly twice that amount on pensions.  So down 
with the sick and the old I say!  They all would think my Ferrari is 
ugly anyhow...


Ric Rainbolt wrote:
> At 05:50 PM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
>
>   
>> I fully agree our system is not fair and it really is a form of charity
>> to a large extent, no question.  It seems the arguments here are based
>> on just the numbers, but what is missing here is any compassion for your
>> fellow man.  Sure I work hard to provide for my family and I worry about
>> their financial security and future but I also recognize that I live in
>> a society with other people and reading this I recall an old adage my
>> parents used to tell me: "the world needs ditch diggers too"...
>>     
>
> And therein is the basis of the problem. This is a worldwide epidemic 
> of misconception, IMHO.
>
> Compassion for my fellow man is NOT to support someone who doesn't 
> bother to get an education, or bother to not drink beer that costs 
> more than his gross wages. Is it MY fault that he's a ditch digger? 
> Perhaps I spent years honing my profitable technical skills while he 
> skipped school and drank his way into his situation? Now I'm 
> literally robbed to pay for his misdeeds or lack of proactive foresight.
>
> It should for ME to decide when to allow the gift of charity to 
> emanate from MY compassion. I do NOT want to have money taken BY 
> FORCE by large bureaucracy and given willy-nilly to whoever makes up 
> the best boo-hoo sob story. I've lived around and worked with MANY 
> fully able-bodied individuals that were taking money from the system 
> via systematic fraud (workmans comp, Medicare, etc.). Then there's 
> the whole part about federal funding for all kinds of crap that I 
> would NEVER EVER support if given a choice in the matter. I give many 
> thousands to charities each year... ones of MY choosing.
>
> There is NO charity in someone taking my money to give to someone 
> else (and in many cases, keep some for themselves for being so 
> righteous). That's playing shift-the-burden-of-my-guilt complex. Far 
> too common.
>
> RR 
>
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