Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content (Please)

[philville dejazzd.com (philville]

   the New School for Social Research

   I was doing just fine and strddling the fence until Ric sent the
   article from the Carolina Press dealing with the 401's and
   IRA's.....by a professor at the above school....
   Now that is a name that even scares me.

   But I would still love to see a graph of the top 5% to see who gets
   paid and who earns the money....If I am not careful I will start
   listening to Ric "off shore" Rainbolt.

   Phil
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
   Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:26 pm
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the content
   (Please)
   To: philville [at] dejazzd.com
   > good points to ponder - I too would like to take a simple sample
   > from one
   > discipline - lets say entertainment.  List the top 20
   > entertainers and make
   > three columns - income, taxes (total), and charitable
   > contributions (a
   > percent and actual $).  Ok, four columns then.  Just a
   > thot.  Then take
   > politicians - every Senator etc.
   > d
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   > To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
   > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:34 AM
   > Subject: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
   > content (Please)
   >
   >
   > >
   > >   The tax burden should not rest on the shoulders of
   > those who can
   > >   "afford" it, but I have often heard about the top
   > 5% paying over 50 %
   > >   of our taxes etc..........but I have never heard
   > the cumulative gross
   > >   income of that top 5% .....BUT, I would bet that
   > their gross is over
   > >   50% of the gross annual income of all, so why is
   > it unfair?   Some day
   > >   I would love to see a serious breakdown of who is
   > paying the most
   > >   taxes on monies earned, and how many of that top
   > 5% are really earning
   > >   what they are recieving.
   > >   Those who are possibly being penalized are that
   > very small percentage
   > >   who are actually earning what they are paid.
   > >
   > >   And yes, had I inherited mega wealth from old
   > money oil, banking,
   > >   railroad etc. I might feel differently how ever I
   > did not and I do
   > >   not.
   > >
   > >   Hey, it is only money.... but the problem is that
   > with out money one
   > >   is not likely to buy a 550 Marranello even at
   > todays bargain prices.
   > >
   > >   Thanks all and remember we each have our
   > opinions....whats in your
   > >   wallet?
   > >
   > >   Phil
   > >   ----- Original Message -----
   > >   From: jashburne [at] aol.com
   > >   Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:35 am
   > >   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their
   > Good Looks?
   > >   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   > >   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > >   > This is the problem with a "soak the rich" philosophy.
   > >   > Already we have accepted a very progressive tax
   > structure in
   > >   > which the top 5 percent of earners pay half or
   > more of total tax
   > >   > revenues and the bottom 45 pct pay no income
   > taxes at all.
   > >   >
   > >   > When the president elect says that increasing
   > the top tax rate
   > >   > from 36 pct to 39.6 pct is only "chump change"
   > to a million
   > >   > dollar earner when it is really a tax increase
   > of $36,000 a
   > >   > year, this country is in big trouble.
   > >   >
   > >   > This is dangerous because politicians don't care
   > about losing 5
   > >   > pct of the vote when they can promise tax cuts
   > or checks to the
   > >   > other 95 pct.
   > >   >
   > >   > There is a limit to how far the government can
   > force fewer and
   > >   > fewer people to carry more and more of the tax
   > burden and we may
   > >   > be approaching it.  If we are careful the
   > most productive
   > >   > sectors will leave and this economy will spiral
   > downward.>   >
   > >   > Rant off
   > >   >
   > >   > John
   > >   > ------Original Message------
   > >   > From: Matt Boyd
   > >   > Sender:
   > >   > To: jashburne [at] aol.com
   > >   > Cc: The FerrariList
   > >   > Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:47 AM
   > >   > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their
   > Good Looks?
   > >   >
   > >   > Right!  They're rich enough, so we should
   > just extract the
   > >   > $$ from
   > >   > them.  If they can afford a gold stripe,
   > they certainly
   > >   > should pay
   > >   > some money to the government!
   > >   >
   > >   > :-?
   > >   >
   > >   > -matt
   > >   > '85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine...
   > >   >
   > >   > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James
   > >   > <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
   > >   > > LOL, you're funny Larry.
   > >   > >
   > >   > > NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a
   > new Ferrari walk
   > >   > into a dealership and go:  "Damn, I could
   > 'just' afford a
   > >   > new 430, but I can't afford the car with that
   > Gas Guzzler tax
   > >   > added on!  My dreams are over, I'm going to
   > have to go buy
   > >   > a Buick now.....Damn those Washington
   > Socialists, boo-
   > >   > hoo.....sniff...">
   > >   > > Please - buyers are spending several
   > thousand$$$ extra to have
   > >   > those gold stripes painted on their Scuderia's
   > hood to match the
   > >   > color of the rims and have the seat-stitching
   > threads contrast
   > >   > the seat leather.  Do you think any of
   > these 'extras' make
   > >   > the car go faster?  These folks don't care
   > about the money,
   > >   > good for them.  Care to guess that the
   > California won't
   > >   > sell well, even in this economy?
   > >   >
   > _________________________________________________________________>
   > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
   > >   >
   > >
   >
   http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jashburne%40aol.c
   >   om
   > >   >
   > >   > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
   > >   > and F1 Headlines
   > >   > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
   > >   >
   > >   >
   > >   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
   > >   >
   > _________________________________________________________________>
   > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
   > >   >
   > >
   >
   http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz
   >   zd.com
   > >   >
   > >   > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
   > >   > and F1 Headlines
   > >   > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
   > >   Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
   > >   39 Churchill Drive
   > >   Elverson Pa 19520
   > >   610.525.8949
   > >   And, go to: ... www.PhilvilleUSA.com
   > >
   >
   >
   > -----------------------------------------------------------------
   > ---------------
   >
   >
   > > _________________________________________________________________
   > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
   > >
   http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/dnt%40dock.net
   > >
   > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
   > > and F1 Headlines
   > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
   > >
   >
   Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
   39 Churchill Drive
   Elverson Pa 19520
   610.525.8949
   And, go to: ... www.PhilvilleUSA.com