Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please)

(continued)

Here's some charts and info that purports to be accurate for year 2000.
http://www.askquestions.org/articles/taxes/

As someone said, figures lie and liars figure - so be careful how you read 

it.

So I assme there's more than 1 way to put these numbers together -
Enjoy
Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits &
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>

To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the 

content(Please)

  the New School for Social Research

  I was doing just fine and strddling the fence until Ric sent the
  article from the Carolina Press dealing with the 401's and
  IRA's.....by a professor at the above school....
  Now that is a name that even scares me.

  But I would still love to see a graph of the top 5% to see who gets
  paid and who earns the money....If I am not careful I will start
  listening to Ric "off shore" Rainbolt.

  Phil
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
  Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:26 pm
  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the content
  (Please)
  To: philville [at] dejazzd.com
  > good points to ponder - I too would like to take a simple sample
  > from one
  > discipline - lets say entertainment.  List the top 20
  > entertainers and make
  > three columns - income, taxes (total), and charitable
  > contributions (a
  > percent and actual $).  Ok, four columns then.  Just a
  > thot.  Then take
  > politicians - every Senator etc.
  > d
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
  > To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
  > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:34 AM
  > Subject: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
  > content (Please)
  >
  >
  > >
  > >   The tax burden should not rest on the shoulders of
  > those who can
  > >   "afford" it, but I have often heard about the top
  > 5% paying over 50 %
  > >   of our taxes etc..........but I have never heard
  > the cumulative gross
  > >   income of that top 5% .....BUT, I would bet that
  > their gross is over
  > >   50% of the gross annual income of all, so why is
  > it unfair?   Some day
  > >   I would love to see a serious breakdown of who is
  > paying the most
  > >   taxes on monies earned, and how many of that top
  > 5% are really earning
  > >   what they are recieving.
  > >   Those who are possibly being penalized are that
  > very small percentage
  > >   who are actually earning what they are paid.
  > >
  > >   And yes, had I inherited mega wealth from old
  > money oil, banking,
  > >   railroad etc. I might feel differently how ever I
  > did not and I do
  > >   not.
  > >
  > >   Hey, it is only money.... but the problem is that
  > with out money one
  > >   is not likely to buy a 550 Marranello even at
  > todays bargain prices.
  > >
  > >   Thanks all and remember we each have our
  > opinions....whats in your
  > >   wallet?
  > >
  > >   Phil
  > >   ----- Original Message -----
  > >   From: jashburne [at] aol.com
  > >   Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:35 am
  > >   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their
  > Good Looks?
  > >   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
  > >   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
  > >   > This is the problem with a "soak the rich" philosophy.
  > >   > Already we have accepted a very progressive tax
  > structure in
  > >   > which the top 5 percent of earners pay half or
  > more of total tax
  > >   > revenues and the bottom 45 pct pay no income
  > taxes at all.
  > >   >
  > >   > When the president elect says that increasing
  > the top tax rate
  > >   > from 36 pct to 39.6 pct is only "chump change"
  > to a million
  > >   > dollar earner when it is really a tax increase
  > of $36,000 a
  > >   > year, this country is in big trouble.
  > >   >
  > >   > This is dangerous because politicians don't care
  > about losing 5
  > >   > pct of the vote when they can promise tax cuts
  > or checks to the
  > >   > other 95 pct.
  > >   >
  > >   > There is a limit to how far the government can
  > force fewer and
  > >   > fewer people to carry more and more of the tax
  > burden and we may
  > >   > be approaching it.  If we are careful the
  > most productive
  > >   > sectors will leave and this economy will spiral
  > downward.>   >
  > >   > Rant off
  > >   >
  > >   > John
  > >   > ------Original Message------
  > >   > From: Matt Boyd
  > >   > Sender:
  > >   > To: jashburne [at] aol.com
  > >   > Cc: The FerrariList
  > >   > Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:47 AM
  > >   > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their
  > Good Looks?
  > >   >
  > >   > Right!  They're rich enough, so we should
  > just extract the
  > >   > $$ from
  > >   > them.  If they can afford a gold stripe,
  > they certainly
  > >   > should pay
  > >   > some money to the government!
  > >   >
  > >   > :-?
  > >   >
  > >   > -matt
  > >   > '85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine...
  > >   >
  > >   > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James
  > >   > <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
  > >   > > LOL, you're funny Larry.
  > >   > >
  > >   > > NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a
  > new Ferrari walk
  > >   > into a dealership and go:  "Damn, I could
  > 'just' afford a
  > >   > new 430, but I can't afford the car with that
  > Gas Guzzler tax
  > >   > added on!  My dreams are over, I'm going to
  > have to go buy
  > >   > a Buick now.....Damn those Washington
  > Socialists, boo-
  > >   > hoo.....sniff...">
  > >   > > Please - buyers are spending several
  > thousand$$$ extra to have
  > >   > those gold stripes painted on their Scuderia's
  > hood to match the
  > >   > color of the rims and have the seat-stitching
  > threads contrast
  > >   > the seat leather.  Do you think any of
  > these 'extras' make
  > >   > the car go faster?  These folks don't care
  > about the money,
  > >   > good for them.  Care to guess that the
  > California won't
  > >   > sell well, even in this economy?
  > >   >
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Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please)	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:37:08 -0800 (PST)