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From: LarryT (l02turner comcast.net)
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| Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:46:49 -0800 (PST) | |
I can't even comprehend what 2.1 Billion would be. Yeah, I know - 2thousand
one hundred millions, - the number is so large I guess it's guys like this
who are considered Super Rich?
Ric talked about the super wealthy being unaffected by the taxes put in place to take their money - I know congress passed legislation to prevent the super rich from leaving the US, renouncing their citizenship and taking their money to live in another country. - I bet the targeted Super RIch already have ways around these laws!
I would think in the current way things are done . it'd be really tough to keep dollars in the US -
Although most methods leave a paper trail - money transfers are very convienent but very traceable - unless there's a country that would not be bullied into giving it back - carrying cash would seem to be too difficult but with a fortune to spend and a fortune to hide, gathering millions/billions in cash would probably be more difficult than putting it on a private plane and flying away.
Maybe one day I'll have that problem - ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits & Porsche Posters/Weber parts .----- Original Message ----- From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:07 AMSubject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please)
The last outfit that I toiled in Tucson?with for over a decade was The Gannett Corp. of USA fame. In the last year, it's stock has dropped 75% in value and the entire staff, down to even the??janitors have been cut 10%?to trim expenses. Tough times.As a show of solidarity with the front line troops, the Gannett President and CEO, Rick Debow has cut his own salary to $1 Million dollars from it's original $1.2 Million dollars, thus saving $200,000 dollars for the stockholders and retirees like me. Rick's gesture almost brought tears to the old jaded newspaperman's eyes when I heard of his sacrifice until I read, further down the news release that Rick's total compensation package would remain at $7.5 Million with his bonuses and other perks. So much for sacrifice! <g>Is this a great country or what?On the other hand, my previous boss at the L.A. Herald-Examiner was George Hearst, Jr. The last Forbes 400 listed him as being worth $2.1 Billion dollars. When I worked for him, believe me, he worked for every nickel. Although he was born into the Hearst dynasty, who stole their money in the the old fashioned American tradition. He was a great guy and he even worked right beside me once in composing room putting together the Sunday edition of the Her-Ex. Hell, after the paper was put to bed, we even shared a beer together and I even got invited up to 'The Ranch' in San Simeon with a few others.-----Original Message----- From: philville dejazzd.com? ?? the New School for Social Research ?? I was doing just fine and strddling the fence until Ric sent the ?? article from the Carolina Press dealing with the 401's and ?? IRA's.....by a professor at the above school.... ?? Now that is a name that even scares me. ?? But I would still love to see a graph of the top 5% to see who gets ?? paid and who earns the money....If I am not careful I will start ?? listening to Ric "off shore" Rainbolt. ?? Phil ?? ----- Original Message ----- ?? From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> ?? Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:26 pm ?? Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the content ?? (Please) ?? To: philville [at] dejazzd.com ?? > good points to ponder - I too would like to take a simple sample ?? > from one ?? > discipline - lets say entertainment.? List the top 20 ?? > entertainers and make ?? > three columns - income, taxes (total), and charitable ?? > contributions (a ?? > percent and actual $).? Ok, four columns then.? Just a ?? > thot.? Then take ?? > politicians - every Senator etc. ?? > d ?? > ?? > ----- Original Message ----- ?? > From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com> ?? > To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net> ?? > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ?? > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:34 AM ?? > Subject: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the ?? > content (Please) ?? > ?? > ?? > > ?? > >?? The tax burden should not rest on the shoulders of ?? > those who can ?? > >?? "afford" it, but I have often heard about the top ?? > 5% paying over 50 % ?? > >?? of our taxes etc..........but I have never heard ?? > the cumulative gross ?? > >?? income of that top 5% .....BUT, I would bet that ?? > their gross is over ?? > >?? 50% of the gross annual income of all, so why is ?? > it unfair??? Some day ?? > >?? I would love to see a serious breakdown of who is ?? > paying the most ?? > >?? taxes on monies earned, and how many of that top ?? > 5% are really earning ?? > >?? what they are recieving. ?? > >?? Those who are possibly being penalized are that ?? > very small percentage ?? > >?? who are actually earning what they are paid. ?? > > ?? > >?? And yes, had I inherited mega wealth from old ?? > money oil, banking, ?? > >?? railroad etc. I might feel differently how ever I ?? > did not and I do ?? > >?? not. ?? > > ?? > >?? Hey, it is only money.... but the problem is that ?? > with out money one ?? > >?? is not likely to buy a 550 Marranello even at ?? > todays bargain prices. ?? > > ?? > >?? Thanks all and remember we each have our ?? > opinions....whats in your ?? > >?? wallet? ?? > > ?? > >?? Phil ?? > >?? ----- Original Message ----- ?? > >?? From: jashburne [at] aol.com ?? > >?? Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:35 am ?? > >?? Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their ?? > Good Looks? ?? > >?? To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> ?? > >?? Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ?? > >?? > This is the problem with a "soak the rich" philosophy. ?? > >?? > Already we have accepted a very progressive tax ?? > structure in ?? > >?? > which the top 5 percent of earners pay half or ?? > more of total tax ?? > >?? > revenues and the bottom 45 pct pay no income ?? > taxes at all. ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > When the president elect says that increasing ?? > the top tax rate ?? > >?? > from 36 pct to 39.6 pct is only "chump change" ?? > to a million ?? > >?? > dollar earner when it is really a tax increase ?? > of $36,000 a ?? > >?? > year, this country is in big trouble. ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > This is dangerous because politicians don't care ?? > about losing 5 ?? > >?? > pct of the vote when they can promise tax cuts ?? > or checks to the ?? > >?? > other 95 pct. ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > There is a limit to how far the government can ?? > force fewer and ?? > >?? > fewer people to carry more and more of the tax ?? > burden and we may ?? > >?? > be approaching it.? If we are careful the ?? > most productive ?? > >?? > sectors will leave and this economy will spiral ?? > downward.>?? > ?? > >?? > Rant off ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > John ?? > >?? > ------Original Message------ ?? > >?? > From: Matt Boyd ?? > >?? > Sender: ?? > >?? > To: jashburne [at] aol.com ?? > >?? > Cc: The FerrariList ?? > >?? > Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:47 AM ?? > >?? > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their ?? > Good Looks? ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > Right!? They're rich enough, so we should ?? > just extract the ?? > >?? > $$ from ?? > >?? > them.? If they can afford a gold stripe, ?? > they certainly ?? > >?? > should pay ?? > >?? > some money to the government! ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > :-? ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > -matt ?? > >?? > '85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine... ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James ?? > >?? > <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote: ?? > >?? > > LOL, you're funny Larry. ?? > >?? > > ?? > >?? > > NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a ?? > new Ferrari walk ?? > >?? > into a dealership and go:? "Damn, I could ?? > 'just' afford a ?? > >?? > new 430, but I can't afford the car with that ?? > Gas Guzzler tax ?? > >?? > added on!? My dreams are over, I'm going to ?? > have to go buy ?? > >?? > a Buick now.....Damn those Washington ?? > Socialists, boo- ?? > >?? > hoo.....sniff..."> ?? > >?? > > Please - buyers are spending several ?? > thousand$$$ extra to have ?? > >?? > those gold stripes painted on their Scuderia's ?? > hood to match the ?? > >?? > color of the rims and have the seat-stitching ?? > threads contrast ?? > >?? > the seat leather.? Do you think any of ?? > these 'extras' make ?? > >?? > the car go faster?? These folks don't care ?? > about the money, ?? > >?? > good for them.? Care to guess that the ?? > California won't ?? > >?? > sell well, even in this economy? ?? > >?? > ?? > _________________________________________________________________> ?? > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: ?? > >?? > ?? > > ?? > ?? http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jashburne%40aol.c ?? >?? om ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com ?? > >?? > and F1 Headlines ?? > >?? > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ?? > >?? > ?? > _________________________________________________________________> ?? > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: ?? > >?? > ?? > > ?? > ?? http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz ?? >?? zd.com ?? > >?? > ?? > >?? > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com ?? > >?? > and F1 Headlines ?? > >?? > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ ?? > >?? Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier ?? > >?? 39 Churchill Drive ?? > >?? 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- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please), (continued)
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) LarryT, November 15 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) Ric Rainbolt, November 15 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) LarryT, November 16 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content (Please) red5hilser, November 16 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) LarryT, November 16 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) Steve Jenkins, November 17 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) David G. Cole, November 17 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) jashburne, November 17 2008
- Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please) Steve Jenkins, November 17 2008
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