Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please)

[jashburne (jashburne]

These days the only thing worse than carrying large amounts of undeclared cash 
across a border is drugs.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "David G. Cole" <dc [at] dc-mc.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:58:16 
To: <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please)


HA! 

I am on work assignment in Buenos Aires. Tell that to the schlep that flew from 
Miami to Buenos Aires and tried to walk $800k USD through customs in a 
suitcase. He did not make it. After that it was a big mess, accusations that 
the 
money was from Chavez to the Kirschner's by way of Miami. Chavez countered 
with a CIA / Bush plot against him, etc etc. Still not settled, but it is sort 
of funny.

David Cole



On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:36, Steve Jenkins wrote:

> I have seen dudes in suits trotting with large briefcases toward
> banks in
> the Caymans.
> 
> Sometimes, it IS as easy as carrying cash. :)
> 
> SJ 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:47 AM
> To: Steve Jenkins
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
> content(Please)
> 
> I can't even comprehend what 2.1 Billion would be.  Yeah, I know -
> 2thousand
> one hundred millions, - the number is so large I guess it's guys
> like this
> who are considered Super Rich?
> 
> Ric talked about the super wealthy being unaffected by the taxes put
> in
> place to take their money - I know congress passed legislation to
> prevent
> the super rich from leaving the US, renouncing their citizenship and
> taking
> their money to live in another country.  - I bet the targeted Super
> RIch
> already have ways around these laws!
> 
> I would think in the current way things are done . it'd be really
> tough to
> keep dollars in the US  -
> 
> Although most methods leave a paper trail - money transfers are
> very
> convienent but very traceable - unless there's a country that would
> not be
> bullied into giving it back - carrying cash would seem to be too
> difficult
> but with a fortune to spend and a fortune to hide, gathering
> millions/billions in cash would probably be more difficult than
> putting it
> on a private plane and flying away.
> 
> Maybe one day I'll have that problem -
> ;-)
> 
> Sincerely,
> Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
> www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits &
> Porsche Posters/Weber parts
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
> content(Please)
> 
> 
> > The last outfit that I toiled in Tucson?with for over a decade was
> The 
> > Gannett Corp. of USA fame. In the last year, it's stock has
> dropped 
> > 75% in value and the entire staff, down to even the??janitors have
> > been cut 10%?to trim expenses. Tough times.
> >
> > As a show of solidarity with the front line troops, the Gannett 
> > President and CEO, Rick Debow has cut his own salary to $1 Million
> > dollars from it's original $1.2 Million dollars, thus saving
> $200,000 
> > dollars for the stockholders and retirees like me. Rick's gesture
> > almost brought tears to the old jaded newspaperman's eyes when I
> heard 
> > of his sacrifice until I read, further down the news release that
> > Rick's total compensation package would remain at $7.5 Million
> with 
> > his bonuses and other perks. So much for sacrifice! <g>
> >
> > Is this a great country or what?
> >
> > On the other hand, my previous boss at the L.A. Herald-Examiner
> was 
> > George Hearst, Jr. The last Forbes 400 listed him as being worth
> $2.1 
> > Billion dollars. When I worked for him, believe me, he worked for
> every
> nickel.
> > Although he was born into the Hearst dynasty, who stole their
> money in 
> > the the old fashioned American tradition. He was a great guy and
> he 
> > even worked right beside me once in composing room putting
> together 
> > the Sunday edition of the Her-Ex. Hell, after the paper was put to
> > bed, we even shared a beer together and I even got invited up to
> 'The 
> > Ranch' in San Simeon with a few others.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: philville dejazzd.com?
> >
> > ?? the New School for Social Research
> >
> > ?? I was doing just fine and strddling the fence until Ric sent
> the ?? 
> > article from the Carolina Press dealing with the 401's and ?? 
> > IRA's.....by a professor at the above school....
> > ?? Now that is a name that even scares me.
> >
> > ?? But I would still love to see a graph of the top 5% to see who
> gets 
> > ?? paid and who earns the money....If I am not careful I will
> start ?? 
> > listening to Ric "off shore" Rainbolt.
> >
> > ?? Phil
> > ?? ----- Original Message -----
> > ?? From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> ?? Date: Saturday,
> > November 15, 2008 9:26 pm ?? Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change
> the 
> > headers to reflect the content ?? (Please) ?? To: 
> > philville [at] dejazzd.com ?? > good points to ponder - I too would
> like to 
> > take a simple sample ?? > from one ?? > discipline - lets say 
> > entertainment.? List the top 20 ?? > entertainers and make ?? >
> three 
> > columns - income, taxes (total), and charitable ?? > contributions
> (a 
> > ?? > percent and actual $).? Ok, four columns then.? Just a ?? >
> > thot.? Then take ?? > politicians - every Senator etc.
> > ?? > d
> > ?? >
> > ?? > ----- Original Message -----
> > ?? > From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com> ?? >
> To: 
> > "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net> ?? > Cc: "The FerrariList" 
> > <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ?? > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008
> 9:34 
> > AM ?? > Subject: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
> ?? > 
> > content (Please) ?? > ?? > ?? > > ?? > >?? The tax burden should
> not 
> > rest on the shoulders of ?? > those who can ?? > >?? "afford" it,
> but 
> > I have often heard about the top ?? > 5% paying over 50 % ?? > >??
> of 
> > our taxes etc..........but I have never heard ?? > the cumulative
> > gross ?? > >?? income of that top 5% .....BUT, I would bet that ??
> > 
> > their gross is over ?? > >?? 50% of the gross annual income of
> all, so 
> > why is ?? > it unfair??? Some day ?? > >?? I would love to see a
> > serious breakdown of who is ?? > paying the most ?? > >?? taxes on
> > monies earned, and how many of that top ?? > 5% are really earning
> ?? 
> > > >?? what they are recieving.
> > ?? > >?? Those who are possibly being penalized are that ?? > very
> > small percentage ?? > >?? who are actually earning what they are
> paid.
> > ?? > >
> > ?? > >?? And yes, had I inherited mega wealth from old ?? > money
> oil, 
> > banking, ?? > >?? railroad etc. I might feel differently how ever
> I ?? 
> > > did not and I do ?? > >?? not.
> > ?? > >
> > ?? > >?? Hey, it is only money.... but the problem is that ?? >
> with 
> > out money one ?? > >?? is not likely to buy a 550 Marranello even
> at 
> > ?? > todays bargain prices.
> > ?? > >
> > ?? > >?? Thanks all and remember we each have our ?? > 
> > opinions....whats in your ?? > >?? wallet?
> > ?? > >
> > ?? > >?? Phil
> > ?? > >?? ----- Original Message -----
> > ?? > >?? From: jashburne [at] aol.com
> > ?? > >?? Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:35 am ?? > >??
> Subject: 
> > Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their ?? > Good Looks?
> > ?? > >?? To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> ?? > >?? Cc:
> The 
> > FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ?? > >?? > This is the
> problem 
> > with a "soak the rich" philosophy.
> > ?? > >?? > Already we have accepted a very progressive tax ?? > 
> > structure in ?? > >?? > which the top 5 percent of earners pay
> half or 
> > ?? > more of total tax ?? > >?? > revenues and the bottom 45 pct
> pay 
> > no income ?? > taxes at all.
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > When the president elect says that increasing ?? > the
> top 
> > tax rate ?? > >?? > from 36 pct to 39.6 pct is only "chump
> change"
> > ?? > to a million
> > ?? > >?? > dollar earner when it is really a tax increase ?? > of
> > $36,000 a ?? > >?? > year, this country is in big trouble.
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > This is dangerous because politicians don't care ?? >
> about 
> > losing 5 ?? > >?? > pct of the vote when they can promise tax cuts
> ?? 
> > > or checks to the ?? > >?? > other 95 pct.
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > There is a limit to how far the government can ?? >
> force 
> > fewer and ?? > >?? > fewer people to carry more and more of the
> tax ?? 
> > > burden and we may ?? > >?? > be approaching it.? If we are
> careful 
> > the ?? > most productive ?? > >?? > sectors will leave and this 
> > economy will spiral ?? > downward.>?? > ?? > >?? > Rant off ?? >
> >?? > 
> > ?? > >?? > John ?? > >?? > ------Original Message------ ?? > >?? >
> > From: Matt Boyd ?? > >?? > Sender:
> > ?? > >?? > To: jashburne [at] aol.com
> > ?? > >?? > Cc: The FerrariList
> > ?? > >?? > Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:47 AM
> > ?? > >?? > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their ?? >
> Good 
> > Looks?
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > Right!? They're rich enough, so we should ?? > just
> extract 
> > the ?? > >?? > $$ from ?? > >?? > them.? If they can afford a gold
> > stripe, ?? > they certainly ?? > >?? > should pay ?? > >?? > some
> > money to the government!
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > :-?
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > -matt
> > ?? > >?? > '85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine...
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > >?? > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James ?? > >??
> > 
> > <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > ?? > >?? > > LOL, you're funny Larry.
> > ?? > >?? > >
> > ?? > >?? > > NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a ?? > new
> > Ferrari walk ?? > >?? > into a dealership and go:? "Damn, I could
> ?? > 
> > 'just' afford a ?? > >?? > new 430, but I can't afford the car
> with 
> > that ?? > Gas Guzzler tax ?? > >?? > added on!? My dreams are
> over, 
> > I'm going to ?? > have to go buy ?? > >?? > a Buick now.....Damn
> those 
> > Washington ?? > Socialists, boo- ?? > >?? > hoo.....sniff..."> ??
> > 
> > >?? > > Please - buyers are spending several ?? > thousand$$$
> extra to 
> > have ?? > >?? > those gold stripes painted on their Scuderia's ??
> > 
> > hood to match the ?? > >?? > color of the rims and have the 
> > seat-stitching ?? > threads contrast ?? > >?? > the seat leather.?
> Do 
> > you think any of ?? > these 'extras' make ?? > >?? > the car go 
> > faster?? These folks don't care ?? > about the money, ?? > >?? >
> good 
> > for them.? Care to guess that the ?? > California won't ?? > >?? >
> > sell well, even in this economy?
> > ?? > >?? >
> > ?? > 
> >
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