Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Lets change the headers to reflect the content(Please)

[Steve Jenkins (steve]

I have seen dudes in suits trotting with large briefcases toward banks in
the Caymans.

Sometimes, it IS as easy as carrying cash. :)

SJ 

-----Original Message-----
From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:47 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
content(Please)

I can't even comprehend what 2.1 Billion would be.  Yeah, I know - 2thousand
one hundred millions, - the number is so large I guess it's guys like this
who are considered Super Rich?

Ric talked about the super wealthy being unaffected by the taxes put in
place to take their money - I know congress passed legislation to prevent
the super rich from leaving the US, renouncing their citizenship and taking
their money to live in another country.  - I bet the targeted Super RIch
already have ways around these laws!

I would think in the current way things are done . it'd be really tough to
keep dollars in the US  -

Although most methods leave a paper trail - money transfers are very
convienent but very traceable - unless there's a country that would not be
bullied into giving it back - carrying cash would seem to be too difficult
but with a fortune to spend and a fortune to hide, gathering
millions/billions in cash would probably be more difficult than putting it
on a private plane and flying away.

Maybe one day I'll have that problem -
;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits &
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
.
----- Original Message -----
From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the
content(Please)


> The last outfit that I toiled in Tucson?with for over a decade was The 
> Gannett Corp. of USA fame. In the last year, it's stock has dropped 
> 75% in value and the entire staff, down to even the??janitors have 
> been cut 10%?to trim expenses. Tough times.
>
> As a show of solidarity with the front line troops, the Gannett 
> President and CEO, Rick Debow has cut his own salary to $1 Million 
> dollars from it's original $1.2 Million dollars, thus saving $200,000 
> dollars for the stockholders and retirees like me. Rick's gesture 
> almost brought tears to the old jaded newspaperman's eyes when I heard 
> of his sacrifice until I read, further down the news release that 
> Rick's total compensation package would remain at $7.5 Million with 
> his bonuses and other perks. So much for sacrifice! <g>
>
> Is this a great country or what?
>
> On the other hand, my previous boss at the L.A. Herald-Examiner was 
> George Hearst, Jr. The last Forbes 400 listed him as being worth $2.1 
> Billion dollars. When I worked for him, believe me, he worked for every
nickel.
> Although he was born into the Hearst dynasty, who stole their money in 
> the the old fashioned American tradition. He was a great guy and he 
> even worked right beside me once in composing room putting together 
> the Sunday edition of the Her-Ex. Hell, after the paper was put to 
> bed, we even shared a beer together and I even got invited up to 'The 
> Ranch' in San Simeon with a few others.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: philville dejazzd.com?
>
> ?? the New School for Social Research
>
> ?? I was doing just fine and strddling the fence until Ric sent the ?? 
> article from the Carolina Press dealing with the 401's and ?? 
> IRA's.....by a professor at the above school....
> ?? Now that is a name that even scares me.
>
> ?? But I would still love to see a graph of the top 5% to see who gets 
> ?? paid and who earns the money....If I am not careful I will start ?? 
> listening to Ric "off shore" Rainbolt.
>
> ?? Phil
> ?? ----- Original Message -----
> ?? From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> ?? Date: Saturday, 
> November 15, 2008 9:26 pm ?? Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lets change the 
> headers to reflect the content ?? (Please) ?? To: 
> philville [at] dejazzd.com ?? > good points to ponder - I too would like to 
> take a simple sample ?? > from one ?? > discipline - lets say 
> entertainment.? List the top 20 ?? > entertainers and make ?? > three 
> columns - income, taxes (total), and charitable ?? > contributions (a 
> ?? > percent and actual $).? Ok, four columns then.? Just a ?? > 
> thot.? Then take ?? > politicians - every Senator etc.
> ?? > d
> ?? >
> ?? > ----- Original Message -----
> ?? > From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com> ?? > To: 
> "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net> ?? > Cc: "The FerrariList" 
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ?? > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:34 
> AM ?? > Subject: [Ferrari] Lets change the headers to reflect the ?? > 
> content (Please) ?? > ?? > ?? > > ?? > >?? The tax burden should not 
> rest on the shoulders of ?? > those who can ?? > >?? "afford" it, but 
> I have often heard about the top ?? > 5% paying over 50 % ?? > >?? of 
> our taxes etc..........but I have never heard ?? > the cumulative 
> gross ?? > >?? income of that top 5% .....BUT, I would bet that ?? > 
> their gross is over ?? > >?? 50% of the gross annual income of all, so 
> why is ?? > it unfair??? Some day ?? > >?? I would love to see a 
> serious breakdown of who is ?? > paying the most ?? > >?? taxes on 
> monies earned, and how many of that top ?? > 5% are really earning ?? 
> > >?? what they are recieving.
> ?? > >?? Those who are possibly being penalized are that ?? > very 
> small percentage ?? > >?? who are actually earning what they are paid.
> ?? > >
> ?? > >?? And yes, had I inherited mega wealth from old ?? > money oil, 
> banking, ?? > >?? railroad etc. I might feel differently how ever I ?? 
> > did not and I do ?? > >?? not.
> ?? > >
> ?? > >?? Hey, it is only money.... but the problem is that ?? > with 
> out money one ?? > >?? is not likely to buy a 550 Marranello even at 
> ?? > todays bargain prices.
> ?? > >
> ?? > >?? Thanks all and remember we each have our ?? > 
> opinions....whats in your ?? > >?? wallet?
> ?? > >
> ?? > >?? Phil
> ?? > >?? ----- Original Message -----
> ?? > >?? From: jashburne [at] aol.com
> ?? > >?? Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:35 am ?? > >?? Subject: 
> Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their ?? > Good Looks?
> ?? > >?? To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> ?? > >?? Cc: The 
> FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ?? > >?? > This is the problem 
> with a "soak the rich" philosophy.
> ?? > >?? > Already we have accepted a very progressive tax ?? > 
> structure in ?? > >?? > which the top 5 percent of earners pay half or 
> ?? > more of total tax ?? > >?? > revenues and the bottom 45 pct pay 
> no income ?? > taxes at all.
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > When the president elect says that increasing ?? > the top 
> tax rate ?? > >?? > from 36 pct to 39.6 pct is only "chump change"
> ?? > to a million
> ?? > >?? > dollar earner when it is really a tax increase ?? > of 
> $36,000 a ?? > >?? > year, this country is in big trouble.
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > This is dangerous because politicians don't care ?? > about 
> losing 5 ?? > >?? > pct of the vote when they can promise tax cuts ?? 
> > or checks to the ?? > >?? > other 95 pct.
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > There is a limit to how far the government can ?? > force 
> fewer and ?? > >?? > fewer people to carry more and more of the tax ?? 
> > burden and we may ?? > >?? > be approaching it.? If we are careful 
> the ?? > most productive ?? > >?? > sectors will leave and this 
> economy will spiral ?? > downward.>?? > ?? > >?? > Rant off ?? > >?? > 
> ?? > >?? > John ?? > >?? > ------Original Message------ ?? > >?? > 
> From: Matt Boyd ?? > >?? > Sender:
> ?? > >?? > To: jashburne [at] aol.com
> ?? > >?? > Cc: The FerrariList
> ?? > >?? > Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:47 AM
> ?? > >?? > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their ?? > Good 
> Looks?
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > Right!? They're rich enough, so we should ?? > just extract 
> the ?? > >?? > $$ from ?? > >?? > them.? If they can afford a gold 
> stripe, ?? > they certainly ?? > >?? > should pay ?? > >?? > some 
> money to the government!
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > :-?
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > -matt
> ?? > >?? > '85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine...
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > >?? > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James ?? > >?? > 
> <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> ?? > >?? > > LOL, you're funny Larry.
> ?? > >?? > >
> ?? > >?? > > NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a ?? > new 
> Ferrari walk ?? > >?? > into a dealership and go:? "Damn, I could ?? > 
> 'just' afford a ?? > >?? > new 430, but I can't afford the car with 
> that ?? > Gas Guzzler tax ?? > >?? > added on!? My dreams are over, 
> I'm going to ?? > have to go buy ?? > >?? > a Buick now.....Damn those 
> Washington ?? > Socialists, boo- ?? > >?? > hoo.....sniff..."> ?? > 
> >?? > > Please - buyers are spending several ?? > thousand$$$ extra to 
> have ?? > >?? > those gold stripes painted on their Scuderia's ?? > 
> hood to match the ?? > >?? > color of the rims and have the 
> seat-stitching ?? > threads contrast ?? > >?? > the seat leather.? Do 
> you think any of ?? > these 'extras' make ?? > >?? > the car go 
> faster?? These folks don't care ?? > about the money, ?? > >?? > good 
> for them.? Care to guess that the ?? > California won't ?? > >?? > 
> sell well, even in this economy?
> ?? > >?? >
> ?? > 
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