Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Require Driving School? BIKES?

[philville dejazzd.com (philville]

   How about motorcycles, show up with the money and maybe a drivers
   license and ride out on a piece of machinery capable of 150 +
   mph....and learn on your own. And, it doesn't even take a lot of
   $'s,........a grand will buy you enough of a mc to get you smeared
   along the road for a hundred yards or so.........I do love to ride
   though.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Red5hilser [at] aol.com
   Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:23 pm
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
   > Hey Gang: Let's get serious here. Do you think that any car
   > company would
   > forgo the sale, and hefty profit from a high-performance
   > vehicle  merely because
   > the buyer hadn't attended a driving school? LMFAO! What
   > they  care about is
   > the bottom line. Period.
   >
   > As long as the buyer signs on the doted line, that should
   > release the  seller
   > of all performance related mishaps.
   >
   > Since I've been buying weapons, and I've purchased scores in
   > the  60-odd
   > years that I've been shooting, not once have I been asked to
   > show proof  that I
   > ever attended a firearms school of any kind. They just
   > don't  care.
   >
   > And we won't even get into purchasing that 512 BB from a private
   > party.
   > That's just another can of worms.
   >
   > Case closed? Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
   >
   >
   >
   > In a message dated 2/12/2009 3:50:42 P.M. Central Standard
   > Time,
   > fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com writes:
   >
   > On Thu,  Feb 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Steve Cook
   > <stevec [at] cheatcodes.com>  wrote:
   >
   > > Here's a rhetorical question I thought of after my first
   > _unintentional_> power oversteer in the  355.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > Yesterday afternoon, midway through a  left hand turn, I
   > put on a bit too
   > > much power and the backend broke  loose. I caught it
   > easily and corrected
   > > without a problem (even with a  grin on my face). But
   > that's because I've
   > > gone through numerous  Driving Schools, auto-crossed for
   > many years and
   > > did a couple SCCA  open-wheel races.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > I thought, gee, I hope that  doesn't happen to my wife if
   > she's midway
   > > through a corner, she would  have lost it and spun.
   > It doesn't take much
   > > to get the back end  loose without traction control.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > That's where  my question came from - what about all the
   > inexperienced> drivers  buying super/high-performance
   > vehicles with little or no
   > > experience  driving them - (like pro-footballers in the
   > UK ;).  Cars are
   > >  getting more and more powerful, and there's only so much
   > a computer  can
   > > do to control your traction at  100+mph.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > So now, the question: Should Ferrari  _REQUIRE_ new
   > buyers to take high
   > > performance driving lessons before  selling them a supercar?
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > I think yes, unless  the buyer can show necessary skills,
   > they should
   > > require buyers to  take performance driving lessons.
   > Although they would
   > > legally need to  say it's not responsible for giving them
   > >  over-confidence...
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > Discuss...
   > >
   > >  -steve
   >
   >
   > Great topic....surprised this hasn't come up  before.
   >
   > I think either a special upgraded license could be sought,
   > or  maybe some
   > kind of "test" given either by the manufacturer or some
   > sanctioned racing
   > group. Somehow, someway there would need to be evidence
   > that the driver is
   > "minimally competent" at certain driving  exercises.
   >
   > I use the term "minimally competent" because that's the
   > term  licensing
   > boards use to judge whether those who pass licensing exams
   > in  engineering
   > (and I'm assuming medicine, legal, as well etc.) are good
   > enough to a degree
   > to merit being a practitioner of that profession. So if
   > you pass the exam,
   > you are minimally competent, but by no means are you
   > necessarily a full
   > fledged authority who can do no wrong. ;)
   >
   > If you  made it too hard in either case, you won't get any
   > practitioners of
   > these  professions, and on the automotive side, no exotics
   > could be sold.
   >
   > I've  always pushed for the US to have a driver's licensing
   > program as
   > stringent  as that of Germany but it just seems like that
   > will never fly in
   > this  country because it would infringe on the freedoms of
   > so many, lol.  If
   > anything, maybe a "super license" could be created.
   >
   > I could have  sworn I thought I heard that Chevrolet was
   > supposed to require
   > attendance  of a high performance driving school for those
   > who buy the new
   > ZR1? If you  can't require the skills outright, then at
   > least attending the
   > class is  making some progress.
   >
   > Make it required, and part of the cost of the  car. There,
   > problem solved for
   > now.  :)
   >
   > FG
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