Re: Require Driving School? Yes or No?
From: Red5hilser (Red5hilseraol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:23:34 -0800 (PST)
Hey Gang: Let's get serious here. Do you think that any car company would  
forgo the sale, and hefty profit from a high-performance vehicle  merely 
because 
the buyer hadn't attended a driving school? LMFAO! What they  care about is 
the bottom line. Period.
 
As long as the buyer signs on the doted line, that should release the  seller 
of all performance related mishaps. 
 
Since I've been buying weapons, and I've purchased scores in the  60-odd 
years that I've been shooting, not once have I been asked to show proof  that I 
ever attended a firearms school of any kind. They just don't  care.
 
And we won't even get into purchasing that 512 BB from a private party.  
That's just another can of worms.
 
Case closed? Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba



In a message dated 2/12/2009 3:50:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com writes:

On Thu,  Feb 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Steve Cook <stevec [at] cheatcodes.com>  
wrote:

> Here's a rhetorical question I thought of after my first  _unintentional_
> power oversteer in the  355.
>
>
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> Yesterday afternoon, midway through a  left hand turn, I put on a bit too
> much power and the backend broke  loose. I caught it easily and corrected
> without a problem (even with a  grin on my face). But that's because I've
> gone through numerous  Driving Schools, auto-crossed for many years and
> did a couple SCCA  open-wheel races.
>
>
>
> I thought, gee, I hope that  doesn't happen to my wife if she's midway
> through a corner, she would  have lost it and spun.  It doesn't take much
> to get the back end  loose without traction control.
>
>
>
> That's where  my question came from - what about all the inexperienced
> drivers  buying super/high-performance vehicles with little or no
> experience  driving them - (like pro-footballers in the UK ;).  Cars are
>  getting more and more powerful, and there's only so much a computer  can
> do to control your traction at  100+mph.
>
>
>
> So now, the question: Should Ferrari  _REQUIRE_ new buyers to take high
> performance driving lessons before  selling them a supercar?
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> I think yes, unless  the buyer can show necessary skills, they should
> require buyers to  take performance driving lessons. Although they would
> legally need to  say it's not responsible for giving them
>  over-confidence...
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>
>
> Discuss...
>
>  -steve


Great topic....surprised this hasn't come up  before.

I think either a special upgraded license could be sought, or  maybe some
kind of "test" given either by the manufacturer or some  sanctioned racing
group. Somehow, someway there would need to be evidence  that the driver is
"minimally competent" at certain driving  exercises.

I use the term "minimally competent" because that's the term  licensing
boards use to judge whether those who pass licensing exams in  engineering
(and I'm assuming medicine, legal, as well etc.) are good  enough to a degree
to merit being a practitioner of that profession. So if  you pass the exam,
you are minimally competent, but by no means are you  necessarily a full
fledged authority who can do no wrong. ;)

If you  made it too hard in either case, you won't get any practitioners of
these  professions, and on the automotive side, no exotics could be sold.

I've  always pushed for the US to have a driver's licensing program as
stringent  as that of Germany but it just seems like that will never fly in
this  country because it would infringe on the freedoms of so many, lol.  If
anything, maybe a "super license" could be created.

I could have  sworn I thought I heard that Chevrolet was supposed to require
attendance  of a high performance driving school for those who buy the new
ZR1? If you  can't require the skills outright, then at least attending the
class is  making some progress.

Make it required, and part of the cost of the  car. There, problem solved for
now.  :)

FG
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