Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Require Driving School? Yes or No?

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When in Germany in 1979 - I saw signs on the Autobahn "Fahren Sie rechts." 

Drive Right.  Hmmmm, later it was explained to us - Drive Correctly - Drive 

on the right side of the highway.  Always liked that double meaning.

DOUG
(My German may not be correct - so I am open correction - heh heh)

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Steve Jenkins" <stevej [at] cheatcodes.com>

To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "Ferrarilist" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?

Someone said this years ago on this list when we were having a
discussion like this:

"In Germany, they consider driving instruction a right, and driving a
privilege.

In the US, they consider driving a right, and driving instruction a
privilege. :)"

Except in Idaho... they just hand you keys as soon as your legs are long
enough to reach the tractor pedals.

SJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fleischer [mailto:themightytoe [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: Ferrarilist
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?

OK

I have been reading this thread for a bit and as an HPDE instructor, I
will put it out there to my Ferrari list pals who I think are a great
and entertaining group...  Would I want to share track time with you
guys on a road course?   Hell no, I value my life too much.

Bunch of back seat drivers if I ever saw them...  I would be genuinely
surprised to see more than 10% of this list be able to execute a heel
and toe down shift consistently or to run a single lap in any car, let
alone their prized Ferrari at 10/10ths.  Seriously your a bunch of
waxers when it comes to real driving, the PCA and BMW CCA guys would eat

your lunches no question.   No question the rides look and sound better,

but don't fool yourselves into thinking the 370Z auto rev matching was
not built specifically for you just like those F1 paddles in 80% of new
Ferrari's.

As for the ZR1, yeah its a monster of a car, and not for the
inexperienced, but in the hands of a bad driver, a Jetta is dangerous.
The problem is not the horsepower though, that's like saying the problem

with guns is all the bullets... (hope this stays on topic after
that)...  I am a firm believer that in the US of A, driver training is
abysmal, no one should learn anything more than the rules for dodge ball

and the proper form of a sit up from their gym teacher...  We Americans
start out with terrible training and then spend the rest of our lives
adding bad habits to that poor training.  I know many adults who could
not manage to parallel park to save their lives.  Take the bad training
and habits and throw in a total lack of regard for your fellow man and
you have a bit of a dangerous situation.   Before you point fingers at
all those kids who are getting bad training... What did you do to
improve the same bad training you received?  I learned to drive in the
UK and even that was not sufficient training in my opinion...  I pro
actively went out and attended many driving schools and car control
clinics right after I got out of college.

I think that driver training is changing, here in IL (state of
corruption that it is) driver training is probably the most strict in
the country, they just bumped new driver seat time requirements from 50
to 100 hours of logged driving with a licensed driver (parent) or
instructor before a license is granted.  Kids here need to keep a log
book (like a pilot in training).  I think that is a step in the right
direction.  Next step is mandatory in car testing for the first few
years of driving, and retesting at regular intervals (like every 5
years).  (Hey that would create jobs too...)  No demonstration of safe
skills, no license.  Plain and simple.

No matter how much training you give, there will still be someone who's
skills are exceeded by their egos and our insurance rates will go up...

I don't blame them anymore than I blame people in Texas for letting
black mold grow in their duct works for raising my insurance rates...
Rick go check your ducts man!

:)

Larry B wrote:

You mean if I hand my wife the keys to my Ferrari she might not come

back alive? Hmmm.  For as long as I've owned it she hasn't planted her
rear in the driver's seat, but this gives me reason to rethink that
position.

Okay, just kidding.  Probably.

LarryDate: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:14:12 -0800From:

cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com

. . . . Do we really toss the wife the keys to our Ferraris and hope

they come back alive?

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Re: Require Driving School? Yes or No?	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Doug and Terri Anderson (dntdock.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:44:37 -0800 (PST)