Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Diffuser design and ease of overtaking

[LS (lashdeep]

Hall had 'em first in the mid 60s!

I want to install a foot pedal for aero devices onto my minivan.



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From: "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: billynmiki [at] roadrunner.com; Staxwax [at] aol.com; ItsmeMrWright [at] 
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:41:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Diffuser design and ease of overtaking

WOW! I can't believe modern technology. Movable wings? What will they think of 
next?? 

Oh, wait . . . I remember seeing the three Mercedes SLR cars at the 1955 LeMans 
doing about 180 MPH, lined up nose to tail like a big freight train?at the end 
of the back straight with their big rear wings suddenly flipping downward to 
help slow them down.

That was back in the day that the term, 'pulling a train' had a much more 
simple and innocent meaning. <g>

And didn't Jim Hall have a similiar device?sticking up on the back of his 
Chaparrals back in the late '60s??or was that just a flashback from the 
greatful Dead concert that I went to the weekend before the Race?? 

I guess the old song was right after all. 'Everything old is new again.'

Yer pal in East Jesus, Arkansas, Ferrari Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: Tulsa Tommy
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Diffuser design and ease of overtaking



Yeah, that was cool.  I believe one of the teams, perhaps Red Bull, has a
movable front wing, but they can't really get both halves of the wing
segment to move at *exactly* the same time.
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Diffuser design and ease of overtaking


> Did you see the segment on the movable front wing flap done by Jock
> Clear of Brawn GP? He indicated that the drivers can use the flap to
> increase front down force in order to get closer in the curves and then
> slingshot pass on the straights.
>
> Bruce
>
> Rick Lindsay wrote:
> > Do recall that although Matchett is smart, his analysis is just an
opinion.  If the diffuser makes it harder to draft - which we are only
assuming - its a by-product of increased under-body down-force, not an
anti-drafting device.  That's a lot of hyphenated words in one sentence!
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> >> Subject: [Ferrari] Diffuser design and ease of overtaking
> >> To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:42 PM
> >> The Speed commentators were saying that the double level
> >> diffusers make
> >> pasing more difficult-they say the air is disturbed which
> >> negates what the
> >> Sporting Regulations attempted to do-make overtaking
> >> easier-in this example.
> >> So, why did the Court of Appeal decide to declare the
> >> diffusers used by
> >> Williams, Toyota, and Brawn not in violation?  Maybe they
> >> didn't violate the
> >> letter of the law, but, given the information above, I
> >> would say they
> >> certainly violate the spirit.  Now, when everyone gets
> >> their modified
> >> diffusers on their cars, overtaking will, according to what
> >> I heard during
> >> the Bahrain Grand Prix, more difficult.  More difficult
> >> than last year?
> >> Don't know.  More difficult than was planned for this
> >> season?  Yep
.
> >> So...?
> >> Tom Reynolds
> >> Tulsa, OK
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Mike Fleischer"
> >> <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
> >> To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> >> Cc: "The FerrariList"
> >> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SPOILER: Did anyone see the F1 race
> >> this past
> >> weekend?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> No kidding,
> >>>
> >>> I haven't enjoyed F1 racing this much, well ever
> >>>
> >> really...
> >>
> >>> The amount of passing, the fact that the TV coverage
> >>>
> >> has trouble keeping
> >>
> >>> up with the action, the text showing position
> >>>
> >> constantly being slightly
> >>
> >>> out of date...
> >>>
> >>> Some of the moves these drivers put on each other...
> >>>
> >> Man I'd swear they
> >>
> >>> all were going to start chewing tobacco if they
> >>>
> >> didn't have to turn
> >>
> >>> right once in a while...  That is racing.  The
> >>>
> >> Schumacher years, you
> >>
> >>> watched for who survived the accidents at the 1st
> >>>
> >> corner, then it was a
> >>
> >>> parade to the end of the race...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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