Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360

[clyderomero (clyderomero]

Wade how's the wifes hand doing

Clyde changing 2 hoses under the intake plenum
Ugh


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-----Original Message-----
From: red5hilser [at] aol.com

Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:36:23 
To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360


Wade is a perfect example of the 'Build it. . . and they will come' school of 
thought.

Thanks, Wade. When the dealers are going out of business, there will always be 
a place for the independents like you. I'd rather take my business to people 
like you and T. Rutlands rather having to be talked down to the stuck-up people 
at some of the dealers. 

Especially being saddled with a lowly GT4 (the shame of it all, 'eh, cLyDe?). 
Tom and I remember one place in Tucson (not a dealer) that said that they 
prefered to only service REAL Ferraris. That was the last time they ever got 
one more penny from me.


-----Original Message-----
From: Fortune Motors 
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360



I am glad the dealers take this approach, it keeps me in business. I still
can do a major on a 308/328 for less than $3500  and 348/355/Testa where the
engine comes out I can come in around $7500
I currently am servicing an 85 308 an  87 328 and doing an annual on an 05
430 plus two restorations

Let the dealers turn down and alienate the 3x8 owners ,  more for me



Wade

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360


Unless we're talking a Daytona or a 246, cars whose Book/Market-Value have 
actually kept pace with their service costs, then it doesn't make sense for 
the Dealerships to support these cars. The margins of bringing a used-car up 
to Dealership standards for the resale market, and allowing the Dealership 
to make a profit selling such a car just isn't there. It almost doesn't make 
sense for ANYONE to service these cars, except the DIY community or someone 
who loves the car enough to look-past the cost vs. value comparison. You 
have to LOVE the car to justify writing a $15,000 check for service on a 
$30K car....most people won't do that. Why can't I be "most people"......

Just look at the labor-rates in Ferrari Service from the early 1980s to 
today - can anyone legitimately justify paying today's Dealer labor rate on 
a 308 whose value is near full-depreciation? A "Major Service" used to cost 
$3,500 for everything. Now its over $5,000 and climbing - the parts-prices 
are the same, its the labor that's climbing. We're not talking Honda labor 
rates here......we're talking 360/430/612/599/Enzo labor-rates on a $30K 
car....nobody is pro-rating their labor charges based on book-value of the 
machine they're working-on....I wish they did but they won't.

M

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:


From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList"
 <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 8:06 AM


More or less none of them do. Been like that for a while. The older
cars are studies in deferred maintenance, the dealers don't want the
hassle of having to go through a car for a smaller margin. It's a
time versus effort thing with them. But then again, when was the last
time you could get a 10 year old Volvo from your local dealer?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Robert Rehkopf <CaptRehkopf [at] comcast.net> 
wrote:
> I was at Ferrari of Atlanta getting some work done on my car (and they did
> an excellent job), but noticed, again that no 355s, 348s, etc no cars but
> only 360 and newer. I also noticed this also at Ferrari of Washington 
> (DC).
> I ask one of the sales guys about an older car and he said they just refer
> people to the FCA! The question is do any dealers deal in cars built 
> before
> say 2000? Just wondering?
>
> Robert
>
>
>
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