Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360

[Tom Reynolds (kjtar]

Dearing's.  Actually, they never told me that, they did the original service
before I took delivery of 'Mario'.  But, there was an asshole in the office
talking to Richard about planning a get-together for all the "nice"
Ferraris.
Dickhead.
Didn't you take yours to Redline, Willi?
Tom
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360


> Wade is a perfect example of the 'Build it. . . and they will come' school
of thought.
>
> Thanks, Wade. When the dealers are going out of business, there will
always be a place for the independents like you. I'd rather take my business
to people like you and T. Rutlands rather having to be talked down to the
stuck-up people at some of the dealers.
>
> Especially being saddled with a lowly GT4 (the shame of it all, 'eh,
cLyDe?). Tom and I remember one place in Tucson (not a dealer) that said
that they prefered to only service REAL Ferraris. That was the last time
they ever got one more penny from me.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fortune Motors
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360
>
>
>
> I am glad the dealers take this approach, it keeps me in business. I still
> can do a major on a 308/328 for less than $3500  and 348/355/Testa where
the
> engine comes out I can come in around $7500
> I currently am servicing an 85 308 an  87 328 and doing an annual on an 05
> 430 plus two restorations
>
> Let the dealers turn down and alienate the 3x8 owners ,  more for me
>
>
>
> Wade
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360
>
>
> Unless we're talking a Daytona or a 246, cars whose Book/Market-Value have
> actually kept pace with their service costs, then it doesn't make sense
for
> the Dealerships to support these cars. The margins of bringing a used-car
up
> to Dealership standards for the resale market, and allowing the Dealership
> to make a profit selling such a car just isn't there. It almost doesn't
make
> sense for ANYONE to service these cars, except the DIY community or
someone
> who loves the car enough to look-past the cost vs. value comparison. You
> have to LOVE the car to justify writing a $15,000 check for service on a
> $30K car....most people won't do that. Why can't I be "most people"......
>
> Just look at the labor-rates in Ferrari Service from the early 1980s to
> today - can anyone legitimately justify paying today's Dealer labor rate
on
> a 308 whose value is near full-depreciation? A "Major Service" used to
cost
> $3,500 for everything. Now its over $5,000 and climbing - the parts-prices
> are the same, its the labor that's climbing. We're not talking Honda labor
> rates here......we're talking 360/430/612/599/Enzo labor-rates on a $30K
> car....nobody is pro-rating their labor charges based on book-value of the
> machine they're working-on....I wish they did but they won't.
>
> M
>
> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Dealers--why no cars older than a 360
> To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "The FerrariList"
>  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 8:06 AM
>
>
> More or less none of them do. Been like that for a while. The older
> cars are studies in deferred maintenance, the dealers don't want the
> hassle of having to go through a car for a smaller margin. It's a
> time versus effort thing with them. But then again, when was the last
> time you could get a 10 year old Volvo from your local dealer?
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Robert Rehkopf <CaptRehkopf [at] comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > I was at Ferrari of Atlanta getting some work done on my car (and they
did
> > an excellent job), but noticed, again that no 355s, 348s, etc no cars
but
> > only 360 and newer. I also noticed this also at Ferrari of Washington
> > (DC).
> > I ask one of the sales guys about an older car and he said they just
refer
> > people to the FCA! The question is do any dealers deal in cars built
> > before
> > say 2000? Just wondering?
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
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