Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari - Where's the Passion?

[red5hilser (red5hilser]

B*I*N*G*O! You answered the question.

Now that wasn't that hard, was it?

Yer pal, Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: francis 
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari - Where's the Passion?


Hi Bubba?
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Race of Champions, Brands, 12th March 1967.?
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Best?
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Francis?
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On 29 May 2009, at 23:35, Red5hilser [at] aol.com wrote:?
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> No trick at all. Gurney was at the wheel of chassis 102, with the > new V12 
> engine, and it was months before the Spa victory. He beat > Bandini in?a 
> Ferrari. Read the question again. Think like a lawyer > and good luck. <g>?
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> I'm sure that cLyDe, with all his F1 passion and knowledge is just > too 
> humble to give us the correct answer.?
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> Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba?
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> Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba?
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> -----Original Message-----?
> From: Larry?
> Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Ferrari - Where's the Passion??
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> So it is a trick question because you're asking for the first > European 
> victory of that particular car -- not that particular driver??
> ??
>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:21:12 -0400?
>> From: red5hilser [at] aol.com?
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari - Where's the Passion??
>> CC: ItsmeMrWright [at] aol.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com; >> rentiers 
>> [at] mac.com; Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com?
>> To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com?
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>> Hey francis: WRONG! Read the question again, and maybe you'll get it.?
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>> Sorry, yer pal, Ferrari Bubba?
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>> -----Original Message-----?
>> From: francis newman?
>> To: Bubba?
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari - Where's the Passion??
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>> Unless it's a trick question - Belgian GP June 18 1967 - the one >> and only 
>> win.??
>> ??
>> One of the Eagle Weslake V12s was at GTO Engineering, a ferrari >> shop a 
>> couple of miles from where I live, having some work done a >> couple of 
>> years ago. Beautiful car.??
>> ??
>> Do I get to ask the next question.??
>> ??
>> Best??
>> ??
>> Francis??
>> ??
>> On 29 May 2009, at 15:38, Red5hilser [at] aol.com wrote:??
>> ??
>>> Hey Phil: I think that there's more than a fair share of passion > >>> 
>>> right here in East Jesus, AR.???
>>> ??
>>> Dos Hermanos Rodriquez? I saw Ricardo win the under 2 litre class >>> at?> 
>>> the Times GP at?Riverside in his brand new Porsche RSK in the >>> late > 
>>> '50s, and both GTS Doug and I chatted with his older >>> brother in the > 
>>> pits at Laguna Seca after his Can-Am Ferrari >>> dropped out with he > 
>>> said, "the fuel pump, she chorted!"??
>>> ???
>>> If you or anyone out ther want to play a little F1 or Ferrari >>> racing > 
>>> trivia, either on or off line, I'm up to the challenge.??
>>> ??
>>> Trivia Question?1. When and where was Dan Gurney's F1 Eagle's >>> first > 
>>> win in Europe???
>>> ??
>>> Any takers?? --? Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba??
>>> ??
>>> ??
>>> -----Original Message-----??
>>> From: philville??
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales >>> tax??
>>> ??
>>> ??
>>> ??
>>> ??
>>> OK, break out the flame throwers, but, I am not quite certain that??
>>> owning a Ferrari today means the same thing to many of the owners >>> as??
>>> it did even 5 to 10 years ago....??
>>> At one time it was a goal, a goal that few ever anticipated??
>>> accomplishing, the enthusiasts were consumed with owning a Ferrari >>> > 
>>> now??
>>> I fear that many are only consumed with consuming and owning....how??
>>> many people (owners / enthusiasts ) know the serial number of their??
>>> car? How many can actually recite much of the history of the car or??
>>> know what the history of the drivers were who was Phil Hill or??
>>> Grahm Hill or the Rodriguez bros.....and don't even think about the??
>>> truly incredible men who raced these cars in the 40's and > >>> 
>>> 50's.....or??
>>> about Ferraris efforts at Indy........??
>>> ??
>>> Where is the passion???
>>> ----- Original Message -----??
>>> From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com??
>>> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:43 pm??
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales >>> > 
>>> tax??
>>> To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>??
>>> Cc: FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>??
>>>> I've thought about that too. Ferrari owners are by definition??
>>>> unique. And unique isn't allowed in a socialist system. Hummm...??
>>>> ??
>>>> Rick??
>>>> ??
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T??
>>>> ??
>>>> -----Original Message-----??
>>>> From: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>??
>>>> ??
>>>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:54:51??
>>>> To: rolindsay<rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>??
>>>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>??
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National??
>>>> Sales tax??
>>>> ??
>>>> ??
>>>> I used to think that most people here on this NG already owned a??
>>>> Ferrari or??
>>>> were inspired to own one in the future and were likely saving up??
>>>> for the big??
>>>> day when they could take possession of one. I didn't realize??
>>>> that there??
>>>> would be so many who would rather give more of their income to??
>>>> the BO ,so he??
>>>> can redistribute it to whatever group of people that BO??
>>>> desires, instead of??
>>>> them keeping as much of their hard earned money??
>>> as they can. I??
>>>> don't see??
>>>> how BO's confiscation of more of their income would help them??
>>>> get to own a??
>>>> Ferrari any faster. But then maybe it's just me being selfish??
>>>> for not??
>>>> wanting to buy any more illegal aliens their free helath care.??
>>>> ??
>>>> ??
>>>> ----- Original Message -----??
>>>> From: "Rick Morris" <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com>??
>>>> To: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>??
>>>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>??
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:38 PM??
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National??
>>>> Sales tax??
>>>> ??
>>>> ??
>>>>> I hate to say it, but thinking that BO was going to take it I??
>>>> had already??
>>>>> started working out moving our operation off shore. So,??
>>>> his tax increase??
>>>>> will likely see my taxes drop by 10's of K per year. Yeah-??
>>>> that increase??
>>>>> will pan our really well for him.??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> And it is not a matter of being selfish, as most of the have-??
>>>> nots seem to??
>>>>> think. Most of them are the will-nots, which is why they??
>>>> are have-nots.??
>>>>> I have no problem helping those that are can-nots- they??
>>>> absolutely need??
>>>>> the help. I also have no problem in helping to supply a??
>>>> safety net for??
>>>>> those that unexpectedly, and through no fault of their own,??
>>>> fall on hard??
>>>>> times. But that latter group will also be in need short-??
>>>> term, and not??
>>>>> decide to live off of the social system. Unfortunately,??
>>>> the Democrats are??
>>>>> generally socialist minded individuals, and our current Pres I??
>>>> would have??
>>>>> to say has at least one foot into communism. Just how??
>>>> much private??
>>>>> business is our government taking over now???
>>>>> ??
>>>>> Incidentally, I too have lived in two systems. Socialism??
>>>> simply does not??
>>>>> work, and for the reasons previously stated. It is great??
>>>> in theory, but??
>>>>> falls apart when you bring the human element into it. I??
>>>> say open the??
>>>>> border to the north, give people the choice of socialism or??
>>>> capitalism??
>>> ??
>>>>> (heck, the capitalist side can even pay to move the socialists??
>>>> north), and??
>>>>> then lock the border up tight. Lets see who makes it??
>>>> through the year.??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> (getting down off the soap box and waiting to see who is up next)??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> Big R??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> ________________________________??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com]??
>>>>> Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 3:43 PM??
>>>>> To: Rick Morris??
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National??
>>>> Sales tax??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> No sir. You are the rick with the BIG R!??
>>>>> ??
>>>>> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Rick Morris <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com>??
>>>> wrote:>??
>>>>>> From: Rick Morris <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com>??
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National??
>>>> Sales tax??
>>>>>> To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>??
>>>>>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>??
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:37 PM??
>>>>>> Have I been demoted to just 'the??
>>>>>> other Rick' now? ;-)??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> ________________________________??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com]??
>>>>>> Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 3:11 PM??
>>>>>> To: Rick Morris??
>>>>>> Cc: The FerrariList??
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US??
>>>>>> National Sales tax??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> Hello Friends,??
>>>>>> We are obviously of mixed minds??
>>>>>> here. Discussions like this are often contested??
>>>>>> between the "haves" and the "have-nots". I'm not sure??
>>>>>> that's the case here in FList land. Most of us 'have'??
>>>>>> to some degree. Hummm...??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> I think it just comes down to the fact??
>>>>>> that those of us who went to school for a zillion years,??
>>>>>> have worked hard all of our lives at good jobs, paid our??
>>>>>> bills, paid our taxes, have a little coin tucked away and??
>>>>>> have no debt - are being told that we don't deserve anything??
>>>>>> that we have and that we need to redistribute it to the??
>>>>>> people who??
>>> did NOT study, work, pay bills, pay taxes and??
>>>>>> save - just so that we can all be equals at some low,??
>>>>>> marginally acceptable level. That just does not work??
>>>>>> for me. One doesn't get from life what one??
>>>>>> deserves. One gets what one works for. (Please??
>>>>>> pardon the preposition at the end of the sentence.)??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> I know I'm a hard-ass when it comes to??
>>>>>> this but I've seen both sides. I grew up poor,??
>>>>>> descended from an even poorer Scottish family. I have??
>>>>>> relatives who do NOTHING but whine - at least when their??
>>>>>> Oxycontin starts to wear off - and they get more government??
>>>>>> money than any of us - for doing absolutely NOTHING.??
>>>>>> They're ignorant and proud of it, living a lifestyle of "Why??
>>>>>> work if I can get government money for free?" That??
>>>>>> attitude is why communism and socialism does not work.??
>>>>>> I've lived in Russia and have seen it first hand. I??
>>>>>> don't care if Tim Geitner says, "Soon we won't care how much??
>>>>>> money we earn. We'll care about how we live."??
>>>>>> That's just naive (and/or more likely, intended for ears??
>>>>>> other than ours). Hummm...??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> Socialism feels very "moral high-ground"??
>>>>>> in concept but it fails because it is counter to basic??
>>>>>> evolutionary forces. Life wants to survive and??
>>>>>> replicate, even if at the expense of others. We want??
>>>>>> to win the race/game/contest even though someone else has to??
>>>>>> loose. Its how life works. Just look at what??
>>>>>> people watch on network TV! We have to compete and we??
>>>>>> like to win! Winning upsets the balance that socialism??
>>>>>> tries to establish.??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> The system being forced upon us now is??
>>>>>> counter to all of that. Its like saying that all the??
>>>>>> F1 teams can compete but no one is allowed to win.??
>>>>>> They must all be equals. Someone should take all of??
>>>>>> Toyota, Ferrari and McLaren's money and give it to Force??
>>>>>> India so that all of the??
>>> teams will be equals. This??
>>>>>> concept violates the Great Truth of the Universe Rule #14:??
>>>>>> "No two anythings were ever created equal." That??
>>>>>> includes us, brothers.??
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> rick (That's rick with a small "r", not the other Rick with??
>>>>>> the big "R")??
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