Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Politics - Not List Material

[jashburne (jashburne]

You can say the same thing about housing and food, which are even more basic 
and essential than heath care.  Should the government provide free or 
subsidized housing and food up to the upper middle class (I.e. Ca. $100k) like 
the House health care bill?

The fact is that no one in this country is denied critical health care right 
now.

Pelosi promises that her bill will reduce costs, increase choices and increase 
competition when it will do none of those things.  All for the bargain price of 
$1.2 Trillion.  Which history has demonstrated will be another govt program 
estimate that will actually cost many multiples of that figure.

There are better ways to fix the problems with healthcare than this abomination 
of a bill.

John

Th
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:11 
To: <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Politics - Not List Material

I would agree with this, in-part, if you didn't equate 'being healthy' with a 
LUXURY.  So not-dying from Polio or the Swine Flu ranks up there with buying a 
Porsche, in your view?  If you can't afford something, you deserve to DIE?  And 
you wonder why the NeoCons have an image and 'values' problem.....
 
Next, you're going to tell me Jesus was wrong, too.  We are NOT our Brother's 
keeper.  Gotcha.  "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness - for the 
Upper-Class and GOP Members Only"  That's catchy - Sarah Palin should run with 
that.
 
 


--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Todd Walke <racertod [at] racertodd.com> wrote:


From: Todd Walke <racertod [at] racertodd.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Politics - Not List Material
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 12:54 AM


Michael wrote:

>Good for them - the rest of us get rationed healthcare today based on our 
>income and job status.

         Guess what?  Everything in life is rationed by income.
         I'd like to drive a Ferrari.  Can't, don't have the income.  I'd 
like to live in a 50-room mansion in the Hamptons.  Can't, don't have the 
income.  I'd like to wear a $10,000 Armani suit.  Can't, don't have the 
income.  I'd like to eat filet mignon, caviar and French truffles 
everyday.  Can't, don't have the income.
         Do I whine and demand that my fellow citizens provide all this for 
me?  No.  I drive a Golf, rent a place, wear Dockers and eat cheap steak.
         Why should a service like heath care be any different?
         Want to cut health care costs?  Get the government out of it.  Our 
state, like every other, requires every heath care policy to cover 50-60 
different procedures.  Want to sell me a cheap policy that only covers 
catastrophic care?  Can't - it's illegal.  All that regulation increases 
the cost of the policy.  Cut regulations, let companies sell policies in 
any state, kill the lawsuits with tort reform.  What do you know, that's 
the GOP alternative plan: http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare
         Private business is dying to sell me the health care I need at a 
price point I can afford, if only the power of the free market is 
unleashed.  Just as they are dying to sell me the cars, clothing, food and 
everything else I need at a price point I can afford.
         Viva Capitalism!  Viva Freedom!  Viva Individualism!  Screw the 
Soviet Socialist "Progressives" that took over the Democrat Party!


Todd
Seattle,WA
'86 GTI, Red of course. (exciting racey car) 270,000 miles
'01 Golf TDI, silver.   (new work car)       223,000 miles
'87 Golf, Polar Silver. (retired work car)   654,000 miles <- Gone to a new 
home :(
http://www.pureluckdesign.com <-Ferrari & VW stuff


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