Re: New Alfa
From: kjtar (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Clyde,
     "The new Alfa is going to suffer the same fate as the new Audi did..."  
what new Audi, the R8?  What's the problem with them?
Thanks,
Tom

---- clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net wrote: 
> The new Alfa is going to suffer the same fate as the new Audi did
> Everyone whoever owned one will come out and bash the reliabilty of the car
> And reliabilty like image is everything!
> 
> Clyde
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:36:19 
> To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Alfa
> 
> 
>    What I tried to say ( but came up blank),
>    Is that yes, the Alfa is a gorgeous car, and, I surely would not mind
>    having one, but the Marranello that is parked next to it is probably
>    all the car any one of us needs (ever)
>    Not only is it gorgeous, but it speaks to me as only a front engined V
>    12 Ferrari can.
>    If you look at it long enough you can see 50 years of Pinin Farina
>    styling, and when you drive it, it is all Ferrari.
>    The Dino isn't bad either.
> 
>    Thanks Gary for the post.
>    Phil
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gary Reed <gary [at] garyreedsales.com>
>    Date: Monday, December 7, 2009 1:35 pm
>    Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Alfa
>    To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
>    Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>    > I beg to differ.
>    >
>    > I've seen four different ones in person and I think they are
>    > absolutely gorgeous!  Total sex on wheels.
>    >
>    > Here's some shots of my 550 and a 246 Dino next to a friend's
>    > red 8C.
>    >
>    > The exhaust sounds that they make are incredible too.
>    >
>    >
>    http://picasaweb.google.com/gary.seattle/Alfa8C?authkey=Gv1sRgCJmf0bDP
>    pJ_0ygE&feat=directlink
>    >
>    >
>    > Gary
>    >
>    >   ----- Original Message -----
>    >   From: LarryT
>    >   To: Gary Reed
>    >   Cc: The FerrariList
>    >   Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:20 AM
>    >   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Alfa
>    >
>    >
>    >   I guess it's one of those cars that look better in photos
>    > than in person....
>    >
>    >   OilAnalysis Time?
>    >   Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
>    >   www.youroil.net
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >   --------------------------------------------------
>    >   From: "Larry B" <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
>    >   Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 4:18 PM
>    >   To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
>    >   Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>    >   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Alfa
>    >
>    >   >
>    >   > There was one on the showroom floor at Algar (along
>    > with a McLaren);
>    >   > didn't care much for the looks.  Liked the F430
>    > Scuderia nearby a lot
>    >   > more.
>    >   >
>    >   >> From: l02turner [at] comcast.net
>    >   >> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:59:17 -0500
>    >   >> Subject: [Ferrari] New Alfa
>    >   >> CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>    >   >> To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
>    >   >>
>    >   >> The newest Motorweek this morning had a brief segment
>    > about the Alfa
>    >   >> Romeo
>    >   >> 8C Competizione  - an incredibly beautiful
>    > machine!  There were only 100
>    >   >> sent to USA and all have been sold (~$280k) with a
>    > fair amount going to
>    >   >> the
>    >   >> rest of the world - IIRC 250 was total
>    > production.  Powered by a 4.8L V8
>    >   >> pulling a ~2000# car the performance must be as
>    > spectacular as the looks.
>    >   >>
>    >   >> According to Wiki it's based on a 2003 show car.
>    >   >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_8C_Competizione
>    >   >>
>    >   >>
>    >   >> OilAnalysis Time?
>    >   >> Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
>    >   >> www.youroil.net
>    >   >>
>    >   >>
>    >   >>
>    >   >> --------------------------------------------------
>    >   >> From: "clyde romero" <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
>    >   >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:12 PM
>    >   >> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
>    >   >> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>    >   >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Oxygen Sensors - was 512TR
>    > service bufu
>    >   >>
>    >   >> > Actuall that's BS because it is done all the time
>    >   >> >
>    >   >> >
>    >   >> >
>    >   >> > Clyde
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>    >   >> > -----Original Message-----
>    >   >> > From: Doug and Terri Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
>    >   >> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:46 PM
>    >   >> > To: clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net
>    >   >> > Cc: The FerrariList
>    >   >> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Oxygen Sensors - was 512TR
>    > service bufu
>    >   >> >
>    >   >> > >>The ClyDe suggests "Just buy cut and splice"
>    >   >> >
>    >   >> > Cut and splice? AYIEEeeeeee
>    >   >> > May work for a 1980 application and a first time
>    > three way cat - -
>    >   >> > BUT the newer applications are quite complex and
>    > quite sensitive.
>    >   >> > Why not cut a late OBD I sensor wire and splice?
>    >   >> > Well- it may change the O2 to ECU signal.
>    >   >> > Secondly, to operate effectively, the O2 gizmo
>    > requires a reference O2
>    >   >> > source.
>    >   >> > Some cheap O2 sensors just use a hole in the case
>    > and Voila - there you
>    >   >> > are.
>    >   >> > Others, get this, actually run a hollow tube on the
>    > outside of one of
>    >   >> > the
>    >   >> > wires into the passenger cab to insure
>    > uncontaminated HC O2.
>    >   >> > Cut that - pooooof - yer back to square one.
>    >   >> > The four wire O2 for the 512 TR is an intricate part
>    > of a moderately
>    >   >> > complicated set of engine commands.
>    >   >> > Bottom line - Get it from Ferrari and rest assured
>    > if you have other
>    >   >> > problems it aint that O2.
>    >   >> > Doug's axiom - if it is emissions related - get it
>    > from the factory.
>    >   >> > Sometimes the cheapest way to go is the most
>    > expensive - in dollars and
>    >   >> > sense. heh heh
>    >   >> > I could be wrong -
>    >   >> > Onward
>    >   >> > DOUG
>    >   >> >
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