Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Some No.... Michael Schumacher

[philville dejazzd.com (philville]

   All the technology in the world will do little to protect us from
   those who just don't get it, ....driving is a means to an end....start
   here go there......I still want to drive a car that demands that I do
   at least some of the thinking and reacting....
   Viva Ferrari
   Phil
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: TheMightyToe <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
   Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:01 am
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Michael Schumacher
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > KR says:
   > But fear not; the German cars  have video cameras to use
   > backing up until mirrors are invented. They have vibrators in
   > the steering wheel that chide you when you prove incapable of
   > staying in your lane. They have forward-looking xray lasers to
   > part the waters when the road floods. And the tires are good for
   > 10,000 miles. Unless you get the run-flat option which rides
   > like Flintstone Rocktreads and cannot be fixed when punctured.
   >
   > Ken, you do realize that these exact "advances" are specifically
   > targetting the Houston area driver?  Flat perfect roads,
   > occasional
   > floods mixed with year round perfect conditions, and the worst
   > collective driving ability on the planet?  Seriously last
   > time I drove
   > there I saw some poor bastard on a Harley get taken out by a
   > lady in an
   > SUV on her cell phone, leaving a tollbooth.  Last time I
   > saw something
   > that horrible was on trip to India (where I imagine driver
   > training is
   > marginally better than Houston's).
   >
   > But on BMW's I agree, that company jumped the Shark back in
   > 2000.  My
   > E46 M3 was probably my last BMW, they just don't make a cool car
   > anymore.   MB has never appealed to me in any way, not
   > even their
   > "classics" which are below any standard set by their
   > contemporaries in
   > both looks and performance.  Who wants a car that lasts
   > forever if its
   > hideous and you have to look at it forever?  They drive
   > very solidly,
   > but have no soul whatsoever and really belong only in the hands
   > of a
   > retiree.  Porsche and Audi are about the only German car
   > companies
   > making interesting rides these days (I do like my VW GTI a lot,
   > but it
   > is a standout for VW's line of cars I think).
   >
   > Now here is something I pondered a few nights ago at the movie
   > theaters...   They played an add for Kia, and the ad
   > was not for a car
   > but for the company.  The pitch was how great and modern
   > their
   > manufacturing plant in the southern US was and how it provided
   > jobs for
   > American workers...  So if I analyze this?  What they
   > are actually
   > saying is it is cheaper for them to make cars in the deep south
   > of the
   > US than in Korea?  Wow.  Just wow and how sad for us
   > to be practically a
   > third world country in many respects...
   >
   > That said, a neighbor of mine has a Hyundai Genesis Sedan, and
   > it is
   > every bit as nice as a Merc S class.  Even looks like one a bit.
   >
   > Now what I really do not get, is how ANY car company could link
   > F1 to
   > their product line?  When have we seen any F1 tech in a
   > Mercedes if
   > ever?  Or a Renault, or a Toyota road car?
   >
   > BR,
   > Mike
   >
   >
   > Ken Rentiers wrote:
   > > Fellippe always enjoy your messages, but I have to disagree
   > with this one.
   > >
   > > It's certainly true that many of the old garden variety Benz's
   > were slow, and about as exciting to drive as, well, a bank vault
   > which is what they were built like. It is also true that many of
   > the latest iteration of MB and BMW products are crap.
   > >
   > > Due to the pressures of the Deutschland greenies much of the
   > current BMW line is now made of recycled plastic. This includes
   > the radiator. Given enough heat/cool cycles (oh say 50,000 miles
   > worth) the eco-plastic becomes as brittle as the peanut variety
   > of same, and cracks. Usually at the most inopportune time,
   > giving you about 30 seconds to shut down before the head warps.
   > >
   > > Did I mention they were as ugly as moose butts? Did I mention
   > they had no dipsticks? Onliest way you can check the oil level
   > is to drain it out and measure it!
   > >
   > > Crap. Idiocy. Obergruppenarrogance!
   > >
   > > But fear not; the German cars  have video cameras to use
   > backing up until mirrors are invented. They have vibrators in
   > the steering wheel that chide you when you prove incapable of
   > staying in your lane. They have forward-looking xray lasers to
   > part the waters when the road floods. And the tires are good for
   > 10,000 miles. Unless you get the run-flat option which rides
   > like Flintstone Rocktreads and cannot be fixed when punctured.
   > >
   > > Crap!!! - gimme the older, simpler cars that you drove instead
   > of rode in. The ones without bulbous snouts to meet new Euro-
   > regs about not hitting below the pedestrians' knees. Like the
   > ugly new 5 series. Don't cry for me Pininfarina - I got some
   > nice old iron I shall keep forever.
   > >
   > > Screw progress and while I'm at it HUMBUG!
   > >
   > > Except for you Fellippe - you're a good guy even if you do
   > latch on to a little misdirected opinion at times. My best to
   > you and yours and have a wonderful Christmas. All the rest of
   > you too, except those taken in by the Hollywood crap machine now
   > showing "Eco-smurfs v The US Marines" (Avatar). ##$%^&* tree-
   > hugging commies every one of them.
   > >
   > > :-)
   > > love and kisses
   > > the kenverine
   > >
   > >
   > > On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Fellippe Galletta wrote:
   > >
   > >
   > >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>> Roger that...before they became plastic toasters?
   > >>>
   > >>> I'll take a 190E 2.3 16v and an AMG Hammer.
   > >>>
   > >>> LS
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >> Oh man.
   > >>
   > >> With some of you guys on here, it's like every civilian brand
   > needs to
   > >> maintain a 250 GTO like aura around their cars....ugh.
   > >>
   > >> Sure, MB of new isn't quite like MB of old but who seriously
   > wants a 190E
   > >> over a new E, S, CL, CLK, SL or CLS? LOL.
   > >>
   > >> A vintage Gullwing is a different story of course, and a
   > genuine AMG Hammer
   > >> or Porsche built E500 is worthy of consideration, but not all
   > garden>> variety Benzes made between 1980-1999. You seriously
   > want bulletproof, buy a
   > >> new Japanese car...done, end of story.
   > >>
   > >> I'll play along and be a good sport and say the '90s S Class
   > was the last of
   > >> the uber Mercedes Benz elite class. When comparing each
   respective
   > >> generation of S, this was easily the best, from the look, the
   > armored car
   > >> like construction, those dual pane windows, and the first big
   > HP V12 in the
   > >> 600...the quintessential Benz.
   > >>
   > >> Still wouldn't get it over the newer S's. You're buying an
   > >> expensive prestige sedan for the cachet/style/keeping up with the
   > >> joneses/etc first, everything else comes second. Anyone who
   > says otherwise
   > >> is clearly lying to himself or others!
   > >>
   > >> The '90s S or Miami Vice era S's no longer fit the bill....so
   > no point in
   > >> owning these maintenance nightmares unless it's for the
   > novelty factor and
   > >> short term. For that LS, you did it right with those BMWs!
   > >>
   > >> It's time to expose the (forty) 800 pound gorilla for what it
   > is! I don't
   > >> hate those older Benzes...still respect them....but to act
   > like they were
   > >> the only good cars from the factory is silly.
   > >>
   > >> FG
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