Ferrari Mailing List: Re: After-action report on 2007 F430

[LS (lashdeep]

Another key is to mention that this approach is only bulletproof with 
*depreciating* cars.

The Clyde operation may have less than typical results with a hot collector car.

Years, ago, I was looking at a vintage Shelby. I found one and the buyer was 
asking $81k. I asked him what his full name was and when he could show it.

I had a cashier's check from a local bank made out for $76k in his name. No 
stories, no BS, no discussion of whether I was serious or not. When it came 
time to negotiate, I gave him the check...then excused myself from the garage 
so he and his buddy could discuss, savor and sweat with the check in their 
hands.

I came back in about 10 mins later and he refused, returning the check. I was 
shocked and thanked him. He sold the car 3 days later for full price since they 
are desirable.

Chances are that an F430 will never qualify for this type of situation.

LS




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From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 9:29:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430


The CLYDE negotiaton technique hinges on one key point that Jim's experience 
misses.

You don't walk in the door with an OFFER.

You walk in the door with a CHECK.

Two totally-different situations, the latter forces the dealership/salesman to 
deeply consider the wise adage: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".  
The latter also washes-away any and all doubt about one's ability to pay, or 
obtain financing.  Lots of people talk the talk, after all.  I'm more-inclined 
to believe that had Jim laid a check on the hood of the car, the salesman would 
have worked to find a way to cash that check, not B.S. Jim to write a new one.  
Just my 0.02 cents.

M


--- On Tue, 2/2/10, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:


>From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
>To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 9:05 AM
>
>
>I bet they'll call you in 30 days to negotiate...
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
>To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
>Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 9:22:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
>
>Well,
>
>Went in and offered them what I thought was a fair offer.
>
>(effectively $140k, likely too much - but still)
>
>Their response was to come down from $159.9 to $157k.
>
>LOL
>
>I feel I have now done my best to "keep it in state".
>
>If anyone knows of any good (no stories, well-serviced)
>F430's - and someone actually wants to SELL it to a
>bonafide buyer - please think of me.
>
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