Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430

[JAshburne (JAshburne]

I too have a definite preference for my non-computer 400i because I don't  
want to be held hostage to proprietary products (the software program) any 
more  than necessary down the road.  Plus I just like simple mechanical 
things  for their aesthetic appeal alone, just like old clocks or mechanical  
watches.  Oops, sorry about bringing watches into the thread!
 
However, it seems to me that future restorations won't really be all that  
much more difficult because of the computers as long as the programming code 
is  accessible or can be obtained.  My thinking is that all of this stuff 
still  controls mechanical bits, such as fuel delivery, ignition timing, 
valve timing,  suspension settings, etc. and that swapping out a control module 
should not be  difficult as long as the map of the program is available.  In 
other words,  the actual box might be a pretty generic item that can be 
programmed to control  any number of cars with similar mechanical systems.
 
The key is whether that coding is available from the factory or can be  
reverse engineered by the aftermarket industry.  If hackers can get into  the 
Pentagon's computer network, hacking the codes into a Ferrari's  transmission 
control program ought to be child's play by comparison.
 
Am I wrong about that?
 
John
 
In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:32:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
judge4re [at] gmail.com writes:

Actually, I think that I prefer my 308 to a 360.  At least  with
specialist companies, you can now get all of the little bits  and
pieces you need to keep one running.  Doubt that will be the same  for
all of the computers that are in the 360 when they are 20 year  old
cars.



On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:27 AM,   <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
> The 360 is the new 308 and  it is what it is
> This is a 50$k car tops
> Who I feel sorry for  is the guys who bought late model 355's converts 
and payed full pop and kept  them thinking they had a pay day coming in the 
future
> These guys have  to be on suicide watch!
> And guess what's next?
> The  360.
>
> Hide an watch
>
> Clyde
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> -----Original Message-----
>  From: clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010  14:15:33
> To: Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
> Cc: The  FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need  group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>
> I am with you
>  There is a 575M at F of ATL with a $139k sticker on it and I looked at 
it  while I was there looking at your car
> He called me as I left an said I  could have the car for 109k
> And there were 2 used Californias on the  showroom floor!
> Let them starve I say this economy is not coming back  anytime soon
> And no one needs a 100+k car now a days
>
>  Clyde
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> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
>  Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:02:38
> To:  Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
> Cc: The  FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need  group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>
> Beat away.  I love  this discussion - I love watching pigheaded assholes
> stubbornly refuse  to sell cars "because they are going to lose money" as
> if somehow  wishing can reverse the passage of time.  This could actually
>  become somewhat of a hobby.  LOL.
>
> (Almost makes me want  to buy a Porsche)
>
> OK, rant over - back on topic  ;)
>
> Truth be told, I think the 360's have suffered most of  their 
depreciation.
>
> The oldest of them are 11 years old, the  newest are 5.
>
> The cars have stabilized from $80k to  $120k.
>
> (excluding those same "pigheaded assholes" who think  their car is worth 
$130k+)
>
> Will they all someday be between  $60 and 90k?
>
> Sure.  but MOST of the depreciation is  done.
>
> The F430 will eventually end up in the 90 to 110k range,  IMHO.
>
> On 2/6/2010 7:56 PM, LarryT wrote:
>> Sorry if  this is beating a dead horse ;-) but I find this really
>>  interesting.
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