Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Well, you also need one of these.

http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=261197

And if you read the fine print, it's basically unobtainium today,
while the cars are still under warranty.

And to further muddle the conversation, I would be willing to part
with my 308, but not for a 360, I will take a Patek Philippe 5130 for
it.



On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:45 AM,  <JAshburne [at] aol.com> wrote:
> I too have a definite preference for my non-computer 400i because I don't
> want to be held hostage to proprietary products (the software program) any
> more than necessary down the road.  Plus I just like simple mechanical
> things for their aesthetic appeal alone, just like old clocks or mechanical
> watches.  Oops, sorry about bringing watches into the thread!
>
> However, it seems to me that future restorations won't really be all that
> much more difficult because of the computers as long as the programming code
> is accessible or can be obtained.  My thinking is that all of this stuff
> still controls mechanical bits, such as fuel delivery, ignition timing,
> valve timing, suspension settings, etc. and that swapping out a control
> module should not be difficult as long as the map of the program is
> available.  In other words, the actual box might be a pretty generic item
> that can be programmed to control any number of cars with similar mechanical
> systems.
>
> The key is whether that coding is available from the factory or can be
> reverse engineered by the aftermarket industry.  If hackers can get into the
> Pentagon's computer network, hacking the codes into a Ferrari's transmission
> control program ought to be child's play by comparison.
>
> Am I wrong about that?
>
> John
>
> In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:32:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> judge4re [at] gmail.com writes:
>
> Actually, I think that I prefer my 308 to a 360.  At least with
> specialist companies, you can now get all of the little bits and
> pieces you need to keep one running.  Doubt that will be the same for
> all of the computers that are in the 360 when they are 20 year old
> cars.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:27 AM,  <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> The 360 is the new 308 and it is what it is
>> This is a 50$k car tops
>> Who I feel sorry for is the guys who bought late model 355's converts and
>> payed full pop and kept them thinking they had a pay day coming in the
>> future
>> These guys have to be on suicide watch!
>> And guess what's next?
>> The 360.
>>
>> Hide an watch
>>
>> Clyde
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net
>> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:15:33
>> To: Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>>
>> I am with you
>> There is a 575M at F of ATL with a $139k sticker on it and I looked at it
>> while I was there looking at your car
>> He called me as I left an said I could have the car for 109k
>> And there were 2 used Californias on the showroom floor!
>> Let them starve I say this economy is not coming back anytime soon
>> And no one needs a 100+k car now a days
>>
>> Clyde
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
>> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:02:38
>> To: Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>>
>> Beat away.  I love this discussion - I love watching pigheaded assholes
>> stubbornly refuse to sell cars "because they are going to lose money" as
>> if somehow wishing can reverse the passage of time.  This could actually
>> become somewhat of a hobby.  LOL.
>>
>> (Almost makes me want to buy a Porsche)
>>
>> OK, rant over - back on topic ;)
>>
>> Truth be told, I think the 360's have suffered most of their depreciation.
>>
>> The oldest of them are 11 years old, the newest are 5.
>>
>> The cars have stabilized from $80k to $120k.
>>
>> (excluding those same "pigheaded assholes" who think their car is worth
>> $130k+)
>>
>> Will they all someday be between $60 and 90k?
>>
>> Sure.  but MOST of the depreciation is done.
>>
>> The F430 will eventually end up in the 90 to 110k range, IMHO.
>>
>> On 2/6/2010 7:56 PM, LarryT wrote:
>>> Sorry if this is beating a dead horse ;-) but I find this really
>>> interesting.
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>>
>> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/clyderomerof4%40bellsouth.net
>>
>> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
>> and F1 Headlines
>> http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>>
>> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/clyderomerof4%40bellsouth.net
>>
>> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
>> and F1 Headlines
>> http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/judge4re%40gmail.com
>>
>> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
>> and F1 Headlines
>> http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>>
> _________________________________________________________________
> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jashburne%40aol.com
>
> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
> and F1 Headlines
> http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>
>