Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430

[Jim Conforti (lndshrk]

Erik,

Clyde is right.

How many Bosch Motronic systems, ABS, etc are in early E30 BMW's (1986-1990
vintage).

Answer - a lot.

How many have 'failed'.

Essentially, none.

The electronics in the Ferrari are made by the same people who make
them for everyone else - same quality - lasts essentially forever if you
don't do stupid things (like jump the car or weld on it).

Just marked up 8000% with the Ferrari Tax.

The only Motronic M1.1 that ever died in early BMW 325's was because they
left out a backcurrent suppression diode.  They fixed that mighty quick
with a harness bulletin/ECO.

On 2/7/2010 7:47 AM, Erik Nielsen wrote:
> How old are the black boxes?  It's a service life thing.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:45 AM,  <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> The modern electrics will not be the issue
>> How many times has a black box failed on you lately ?
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:32:32
>> To: Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>>
>> Actually, I think that I prefer my 308 to a 360.  At least with
>> specialist companies, you can now get all of the little bits and
>> pieces you need to keep one running.  Doubt that will be the same for
>> all of the computers that are in the 360 when they are 20 year old
>> cars.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:27 AM,  <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> The 360 is the new 308 and it is what it is
>>> This is a 50$k car tops
>>> Who I feel sorry for is the guys who bought late model 355's converts and 
>>> payed full pop and kept them thinking they had a pay day coming in the 
>>> future
>>> These guys have to be on suicide watch!
>>> And guess what's next?
>>> The 360.
>>>
>>> Hide an watch
>>>
>>> Clyde
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:15:33
>>> To: Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
>>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>>>
>>> I am with you
>>> There is a 575M at F of ATL with a $139k sticker on it and I looked at it 
>>> while I was there looking at your car
>>> He called me as I left an said I could have the car for 109k
>>> And there were 2 used Californias on the showroom floor!
>>> Let them starve I say this economy is not coming back anytime soon
>>> And no one needs a 100+k car now a days
>>>
>>> Clyde
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:02:38
>>> To: Clyde<Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
>>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
>>>
>>> Beat away.  I love this discussion - I love watching pigheaded assholes
>>> stubbornly refuse to sell cars "because they are going to lose money" as
>>> if somehow wishing can reverse the passage of time.  This could actually
>>> become somewhat of a hobby.  LOL.
>>>
>>> (Almost makes me want to buy a Porsche)
>>>
>>> OK, rant over - back on topic ;)
>>>
>>> Truth be told, I think the 360's have suffered most of their depreciation.
>>>
>>> The oldest of them are 11 years old, the newest are 5.
>>>
>>> The cars have stabilized from $80k to $120k.
>>>
>>> (excluding those same "pigheaded assholes" who think their car is worth 
>>> $130k+)
>>>
>>> Will they all someday be between $60 and 90k?
>>>
>>> Sure.  but MOST of the depreciation is done.
>>>
>>> The F430 will eventually end up in the 90 to 110k range, IMHO.
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2010 7:56 PM, LarryT wrote:
>>>> Sorry if this is beating a dead horse ;-) but I find this really
>>>> interesting.
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