Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 599

[E M (pokiebaron]

Very interesting comment Peter.  MS said something similar about the Enzo.  He said it's a great performance car, but it doesn't compare to the performance of an F1 car, or words to that effect.

I believe the thinking behind the F40, was to give owners the "sensation" of a race car, in a road car. I think this was also the Enzo's mandate. 

Ed
911SC

On 14 June 2010 18:23, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

I always enjoyed tracking my old F40 and my 355ch. Both great fun. Neither as much fun as a purpose built race car.

 

From: Larry B [mailto:larrybard [at] hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2010 6:06 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: Ferrarilist
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 599

 

I'm very interested in what you think would be the best ones for track use?  I know that there are several listers, and of course other owners, who have tracked their 512TRs, but that has little or no appeal for me (except insofar as I could hear the engine wail at some place like the Glen.)  My track car (and daily driver) is a 993, which I think is just right for me, but I've been curious about red alternatives.
 

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:19:31 -0400
From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 599
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com

I think the cars of today, like the 599, demand more and more HP for bragging rights.  Most who buy them can't really drive them, so they then need to develop ways to keep cars with 600HP out of the ditch, with such things as traction control, paddle shifts that protect from downshifting at the wrong time and change gears in such a way to make most think they are way better than they really are.  I think cars like the 599 would be much more enjoyable to the enthusiast, if they had 100-150 LESS hp, and a manual box.  End of the day, the 599 is a GT car, and no "trackie" is going to opt for one.  They may take it out on the odd DE day just to stretch it a bit, but there are far better tools for track use.  Therefore, 600HP in what is a road going GT car is a bit over the top.  You're also fueling a car 100% of the time, that will spend 99% of it's life using less than 200-300HP at any given time.  I know, fuel isn't a big deal with a 599 owner, but such things are becoming a pain for manufactures.

Having said all that, I don't own, haven't driven, and probably never will, a 599, so my my opinions are worth pretty much nothing. hee hee

Ed
911SC

On 14 June 2010 10:19, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:

So you would rather drive, say a Miata?

:)

Totally understand though. A car like that needs to frighten you a bit.

Mike


Peter Pless wrote:
>
> 600hp. Yep…BUT to get a thrill out of it you HAVE to drive it at
> insane speeds. That’s just not doable in this day and age. At any
> other speed its competence makes it as good as driving an SL55 or
> something. Big deal.
>
> *From:* Mike Fleischer [mailto:themightytoe [at] gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:49 PM
> *To:* Peter Pless
> *Cc:* 'The FerrariList'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ferrari] 599
>
> Ha,
>
> I abhor boredom (and automatics), but how could it be boring with 600+
> prancing horses under the hood? Surely you could find some
> entertainment there?
>
> I mean I remember driving a dealer's Mas 3200GT paddle shifter at TWS
> (he told me to take some students and go flog on it a bit)... While I
> was not overwhelmed by the car, it was still not boring :) Maybe you
> just need to get it a bit more sideways?
>
> Peter Pless wrote:
>
> Me. The car is perfect and perfectly boring. JMO
>
> But….fantastic car just the same. Couldn’t fault anything about it,
> unless you dislike boredom J
>
> *From:* Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:35 AM
> *To:* Peter Pless
> *Cc:* The FerrariList
> *Subject:* [Ferrari] 599
>
> Curious....who here has driven it?
>
> Nobody ever really talked about the way this thing drives and the power.
>
> -- FG
>
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