Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fake Ferrari's

[LarryT (l02turner]

Ed wrote <<simply having an engine, or gearbox, is enough to claim you have a car,>>

 

Or even less!

 

That certainly happens -   Tom O'Shennesy (??) of Ferrari Fame bought a early 50s Ferrari frame that was on eBay with a fiberglass body on it.  He recognized the steering box (now, *there's* a Ferrari nut!) as early 50s Ferrari and bought it for $30K.    So now he plans t have a car built around it - seems like it was a early Barchetta that had Lemans history.  He expected the "restore" (his words) to cost millions but he expected the car to be worth even more.  Never found out how it came out -

 

LarryT

From: E M

Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:53 PM

To: Larry Turner

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's

The ones I mentioned were built from the ground up, with a tubular chassis, hand beaten panels, all the bits and pieces being authentic Ferrari.  You can see how Ferrari was a bit upset with a factory knocking such cars out.

Having said that, where do you draw the line.  Since the prices of many of these old cars have gone through the roof, at times, simply having an engine, or gearbox, is enough to claim you have a car, even if you have to manufacture a whole new car around the one bit with a serial number on it.  I keep thinking of the old saying, "there are now 3 times the number of Bugattis on the road, that ever left the factory". lol.  Break up one Bugatti into engine, gearbox, rear axle, etc, and you have yourself enough to make 5 whole cars, and claim each is real.  That's how it was in the crazy 80s anyway.  I think things have changed a bit.  Bentley's were often the same, and I think still are to a degree today.

Ed
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On 13 July 2010 14:46, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com> wrote:

There was a 250GTO reproduction around here for a while built on a modified Ford Mustang platform with Mustang 5.0 power.

 

Proportionally and visually it was an outstanding copy. Until it started up you wouldn't have guessed...

 

One of the better repros I've seen.

 

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From: E M [mailto:pokiebaron [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:54 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's

There was a company some years back, can't remember if they were Swiss based, or Italian.  They were making "reproduction" cars of the first GTOs and such.  Some had 400i V12, and other sourced bits if I remember.  They were a little bit too good, and Ferrari had them shut down.  As I remember, they were pretty much clone cars, down to the hand beaten panels.  They even fooled some well seasoned Ferrari fans.  I'm sure the ones made are still kicking around somewhere.

Ed
911SC

On 13 July 2010 12:50, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

The new Autoweek arrived today and there was a odd article.  Seems a wealthy
family in Italy has been modifying wrecked Ferrari's & engines to make them
look like more valuable ones.  I figured someone was turning a 308 into a
288GTO or something similar.  People can do amazing stuff with FRP.

Then they lost me - they said the American connection was Pontiac Fiero's
were the base /donor car for some of their creations.  Creations?  More like
abortions.

Seems some Fiero's were rebodied to look like a 308GTB.  I guess until
Ferrari issued a court order stopping that here (I think) - but even so,
doesn't seem like there'd be much profit in that kind of reproduction?

I can scan the article if others want to read it.

LarryT

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