ï
HM - on top of Signal Hill, Long Beach
area?
DOUG
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:53
AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake
Ferrari's
Holman Moody is about 30 mins from me, I have
seen the 250 TR's they built on the 330 chassis the cars look very good
. Lee Holman still drives his 250TR around town and to many local
events.
Wade
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:29
AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake
Ferrari's
Safir and Holman-Moody http://www.holmanmoody.com/ I have
spoken to the guys and HM. If I remember correctly, they were only
building track cars and were following the original serial numbers.
Cars were pricy, but still way less than the
originals.
Rick
On 7/13/2010 11:08 PM, LS wrote:
You
prob mean Safir...
From: LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 11:57:28
PM Subject: Re: [Ferrari]
Fake Ferrari's
This may be the company you're
remembering. They also did a Cobra Daytona Coupe using Pete Brock to
do some design work.
LarryT
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's
The Ford GT 40, not the new one - the real
ones - have a company who made the real first ones replicating them and
selling them as replications. In fact, the parts are SOOOO good, the
real 1960's GT 40's use the redo parts. There is a whole
verification of parts to see if said GT 40 was ever in an accident and the
crunched parts were replaced with wonderful new (as in brand new)
parts. I witnessed a GT40 crash at practice on turn 1 at Riverside -
subsequently the car comes up for sale again and the then new new new
(what ever) owner said - oh, no no no - never munched. Ah
well.
DOUG
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject:
Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's
The ones I mentioned were built from the ground up, with
a tubular chassis, hand beaten panels, all the bits and pieces being
authentic Ferrari. You can see how Ferrari was a bit upset with a
factory knocking such cars out.
Having said that, where do you
draw the line. Since the prices of many of these old cars have
gone through the roof, at times, simply having an engine, or gearbox, is
enough to claim you have a car, even if you have to manufacture a whole
new car around the one bit with a serial number on it. I keep
thinking of the old saying, "there are now 3 times the number of
Bugattis on the road, that ever left the factory". lol. Break up
one Bugatti into engine, gearbox, rear axle, etc, and you have yourself
enough to make 5 whole cars, and claim each is real. That's how it
was in the crazy 80s anyway. I think things have changed a
bit. Bentley's were often the same, and I think still are to a
degree today.
Ed 911SC
On 13 July 2010 14:46, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
wrote:
There was a 250GTO reproduction around here for a while built
on a modified Ford Mustang platform with Mustang 5.0
power.
Proportionally and visually it was an outstanding copy. Until
it started up you wouldn't have guessed...
One of the better repros I've seen.
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From: E M [mailto:pokiebaron [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:54 PM To: Charles
Perry Cc: The FerrariList Subject: Re: [Ferrari]
Fake Ferrari's
There was a company some years back, can't remember if
they were Swiss based, or Italian. They were making
"reproduction" cars of the first GTOs and such. Some had 400i
V12, and other sourced bits if I remember. They were a little
bit too good, and Ferrari had them shut down. As I remember,
they were pretty much clone cars, down to the hand beaten
panels. They even fooled some well seasoned Ferrari fans.
I'm sure the ones made are still kicking around
somewhere. Ed 911SC
On 13 July 2010 12:50, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
wrote:
The
new Autoweek arrived today and there was a odd article. Seems
a wealthy family in Italy has been modifying wrecked Ferrari's
& engines to make them look like more valuable ones. I
figured someone was turning a 308 into a 288GTO or something
similar. People can do amazing stuff with FRP.
Then
they lost me - they said the American connection was Pontiac
Fiero's were the base /donor car for some of their creations.
Creations? More like abortions.
Seems some
Fiero's were rebodied to look like a 308GTB. I guess
until Ferrari issued a court order stopping that here (I think) -
but even so, doesn't seem like there'd be much profit in that
kind of reproduction?
I can scan the article if others want
to read
it.
LarryT
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