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Holman Moody is about 30 mins from me, I have seen
the 250 TR's they built on the 330 chassis the cars look very good .
Lee Holman still drives his 250TR around town and to many local events.
Wade
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Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:29
AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake
Ferrari's
Safir and Holman-Moody http://www.holmanmoody.com/
I have
spoken to the guys and HM. If I remember correctly, they were only
building track cars and were following the original serial numbers. Cars
were pricy, but still way less than the
originals.
Rick
On 7/13/2010 11:08 PM, LS wrote:
You
prob mean Safir...
From: LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 11:57:28
PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari]
Fake Ferrari's
This may be the company you're
remembering. They also did a Cobra Daytona Coupe using Pete Brock to
do some design work.
LarryT
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's
The Ford GT 40, not the new one - the real ones
- have a company who made the real first ones replicating them and selling
them as replications. In fact, the parts are SOOOO good, the real
1960's GT 40's use the redo parts. There is a whole verification of
parts to see if said GT 40 was ever in an accident and the crunched parts
were replaced with wonderful new (as in brand new) parts. I witnessed
a GT40 crash at practice on turn 1 at Riverside - subsequently the car comes
up for sale again and the then new new new (what ever) owner said - oh,
no no no - never munched. Ah well.
DOUG
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject:
Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's
The ones I mentioned were built from the ground up, with a
tubular chassis, hand beaten panels, all the bits and pieces being
authentic Ferrari. You can see how Ferrari was a bit upset with a
factory knocking such cars out.
Having said that, where do you
draw the line. Since the prices of many of these old cars have gone
through the roof, at times, simply having an engine, or gearbox, is enough
to claim you have a car, even if you have to manufacture a whole new car
around the one bit with a serial number on it. I keep thinking of
the old saying, "there are now 3 times the number of Bugattis on the road,
that ever left the factory". lol. Break up one Bugatti into engine,
gearbox, rear axle, etc, and you have yourself enough to make 5 whole
cars, and claim each is real. That's how it was in the crazy 80s
anyway. I think things have changed a bit. Bentley's were
often the same, and I think still are to a degree
today.
Ed
911SC
On 13 July 2010 14:46, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
wrote:
There was a 250GTO reproduction around here for a while built
on a modified Ford Mustang platform with Mustang 5.0
power.
Proportionally and visually it was an outstanding copy. Until
it started up you wouldn't have guessed...
One
of the better repros I've seen.
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From: E M [mailto:pokiebaron [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:54 PM
To: Charles
Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari]
Fake Ferrari's
There was a company some years back, can't remember if
they were Swiss based, or Italian. They were making "reproduction"
cars of the first GTOs and such. Some had 400i V12, and other
sourced bits if I remember. They were a little bit too good, and
Ferrari had them shut down. As I remember, they were pretty much
clone cars, down to the hand beaten panels. They even fooled some
well seasoned Ferrari fans. I'm sure the ones made are still
kicking around somewhere. Ed 911SC
On 13 July 2010 12:50, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
wrote:
The new Autoweek arrived today and there was a odd
article. Seems a wealthy
family in Italy has been modifying
wrecked Ferrari's & engines to make them
look like more
valuable ones. I figured someone was turning a 308 into
a
288GTO or something similar. People can do amazing stuff
with FRP.
Then they lost me - they said the American connection
was Pontiac Fiero's
were the base /donor car for some of their
creations. Creations? More like
abortions.
Seems
some Fiero's were rebodied to look like a 308GTB. I guess
until
Ferrari issued a court order stopping that here (I think) -
but even so,
doesn't seem like there'd be much profit in that kind
of reproduction?
I can scan the article if others want to read
it.
LarryT
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