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Tom Shaughnessy is a pretty nice fellow. Has a
small store front down in San Clemente. Dropped in on him when we first
had the 78 GTS and I was looking for parts. Seems he started off with a
365 pre-512BB type and his dad thought he was nuts. Then about the 1990
era high water mark - sold it for A LOT more than he paid for it. That got
Dad's attention. heh heh
DOUG
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:52
PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake
Ferrari's
Ed wrote <<simply having an engine, or gearbox, is enough to claim
you have a car,>>
Or even less!
That certainly happens - Tom
O'Shennesy (??) of Ferrari Fame bought a early 50s Ferrari frame that was
on eBay with a fiberglass body on it. He recognized the steering box
(now, *there's* a Ferrari nut!) as early 50s Ferrari and bought it for
$30K. So now he plans t have a car built around it - seems
like it was a early Barchetta that had Lemans history. He expected the
"restore" (his words) to cost millions but he expected the car to be worth
even more. Never found out how it came out -
LarryT
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake Ferrari's
The ones I mentioned were
built from the ground up, with a tubular chassis, hand beaten panels, all the
bits and pieces being authentic Ferrari. You can see how Ferrari was a
bit upset with a factory knocking such cars out.
Having said that,
where do you draw the line. Since the prices of many of these old cars
have gone through the roof, at times, simply having an engine, or gearbox, is
enough to claim you have a car, even if you have to manufacture a whole new
car around the one bit with a serial number on it. I keep thinking of
the old saying, "there are now 3 times the number of Bugattis on the road,
that ever left the factory". lol. Break up one Bugatti into engine,
gearbox, rear axle, etc, and you have yourself enough to make 5 whole cars,
and claim each is real. That's how it was in the crazy 80s anyway.
I think things have changed a bit. Bentley's were often the same, and I
think still are to a degree today.
Ed
911SC
On 13 July 2010 14:46, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
wrote:
There
was a 250GTO reproduction around here for a while built on a modified Ford
Mustang platform with Mustang 5.0 power.
Proportionally and visually it was an outstanding copy. Until it
started up you wouldn't have guessed...
One of
the better repros I've seen.
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From: E M [mailto:pokiebaron [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:54 PM
To: Charles
Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fake
Ferrari's
There was a company some years back, can't remember if they were
Swiss based, or Italian. They were making "reproduction" cars of the
first GTOs and such. Some had 400i V12, and other sourced bits if I
remember. They were a little bit too good, and Ferrari had them shut
down. As I remember, they were pretty much clone cars, down to the
hand beaten panels. They even fooled some well seasoned Ferrari
fans. I'm sure the ones made are still kicking around
somewhere. Ed 911SC
On 13 July 2010 12:50, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:
The
new Autoweek arrived today and there was a odd article. Seems a
wealthy
family in Italy has been modifying wrecked Ferrari's &
engines to make them
look like more valuable ones. I figured
someone was turning a 308 into a
288GTO or something similar.
People can do amazing stuff with FRP.
Then they lost me -
they said the American connection was Pontiac Fiero's
were the base
/donor car for some of their creations. Creations? More
like
abortions.
Seems some Fiero's were rebodied to look like a
308GTB. I guess until
Ferrari issued a court order stopping that
here (I think) - but even so,
doesn't seem like there'd be much profit
in that kind of reproduction?
I can scan the article if others want
to read
it.
LarryT
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