Ferrari Mailing List: Re: RETIREMENT - was GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

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From: Les Thompson (les21ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:53:46 -0800 (PST)

Luke,

Small world, I was at Invert from 1970 to 1971, a little after your time. Was back over in February of 2015 and stayed at a small resort just east of Ubon.

Check out www.tlc-brotherhood.com, bunch of guys that were in Thailand, Laos or Cambodia during the festivities.

Les Thompson

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-----Original Message-----

From: Luke Graves

Sent: Nov 20, 2016 8:46 AM

To: Les Thompson

Cc: 'The FerrariList'

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] RETIREMENT - was GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

Was leading a flight of 3 out of Ubon with full bomb loads at night in '69 trying to hit a target near the Birdshead. Invert had moved Cherry, Peach and Lemon anchors all close together because of big badass thunderstorms. When I checked in with Cherry anchor, they were all arguing about which altitude each should be at. When we finally sorted it out, I got on Cherry and got my gas. Cherry was banking back and forth to avoid the bumpers, so, we got some good formation flying while refueling at max gross weight. I got my gas and just as I backed out to the pre-contact position Cherry led us into one big thunderstorm. I called lost wingman, rolled inverted and took her down about 5k. When we finally got through that damn thing we got quickly back on Cherry and I said "give us our GD gas and watch where the F you are going! Subsequent mission was even worse, but, that's another story.

Luke

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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:25 AM

To: Col Luke Graves

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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] RETIREMENT - was GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

I agree

It's still hard to beat an afterburner takeoff though

And a trip to a tanker

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On Nov 19, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Agreed. Like my dad, I'm finding in retirement I'm busier. Dealing with a life changing injury, at the end of most days I'm certainly more tired and always more dirty. But I'm doing the things I want to do and the only noise I hear on the mountain is the noise I make... and quite often that's a tractor or an excavator!! Not quite the thrill of a zone 5 cat launch in a Tomcat or hitting turn 1 at Sears in a car with real aero, but there is a certain satisfaction to a full bucket... of MY dirt.

From: Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net>

To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>

Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:40 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] RETIREMENT - was GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

Be careful, retirement isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I had 2 great careers, loved what I did and worked to age 78. Then I ran the Hill country FCA tor 2 years. Engagement in important work that benefits society is very fulfilling. Beats sitting on your ass!

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+buyer1=airmail.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Peter Rychel

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:00 AM

To: Col Luke Graves

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] RETIREMENT - was GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

This is what I'm looking forward to.

I turned 40 earlier this year.

Realistically, I'm planning to retire @ 60, but I'll try to "pull the pin" sooner than that.

As much as I enjoy what I do, as the years pass, I find it gets in the way in what I really want to do - and that is to play with the Ferrari! Although I realize this whole career thing is what pays to keep that hobby going (and it's been a good, lucrative one)!

I consider myself fortunate though to have gotten into this at an early age (bought the 308 @ age 24 when they were "worthless") and appreciate all the years of joy and sometimes frustration that it provides (even to this day!).

Could be worse...

Okay, back to Rob's electrical gremlins.

Peter

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on behalf of pbennett [at] Paul-Bennett.com <pbennett [at] Paul-Bennett.com>

Sent: November 17, 2016 10:21 PM

To: PeterGT4

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

A Big thing in retirement is to take every silly little thing as a fun project. This is a fun part of life which requires using everything you have stuffed into your brain to date to resolve unimportant issues and to get satisfaction and enjoyment from the time spend doing so. Like your backup light, it’s really no big deal but it can be a fun exercise to make it work they way you want it to. AND that doesn’t have to be the way the factory or someone else wants it...you will make it work to satisfy your needs and desires. Carry that attitude throughout each day and ENJOY.

From: Robert W. Garven Jr.

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:15 PM

To: Paul Bennett

Cc: Paul ; The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

From what I was told all the original parts were used in the car refurbished or replaced with new old stock parts. the wiring harness was removed taken apart all the wires checked for continuity and then it was reassembled and reinstalled.

there was an awful lot of work done on this car, but just all sorts of little bugs and details that I need to either run down and fix! It took me 25 years to get a car built in Italy to start working perfectly, so it makes sense it would be even harder to get a car that was completely disassembled and put back together again dialed in! I'm also having problems with the tachometer and speedometer jerking wildly and then when the car is running well and warmed up they settle down to be normal? Several people have told me that in a complete restoration it is a last 5% of issues that are the hardest to settle and the most expensive I think that's where I am at.

I am retiring in a month so hypothetically but I'm not playing in the band or traveling I can spend most my time trying to fix stuff!! Ha

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On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

It's possible they could have used a 308 wiring harness for a U.S. car... My guess. I have severe doubts he would have had someone build each wire and loom it into a harness. Time is money. A LOT easier to buy an OEM NOS harness (I've seen 'em on ebay).

If you get a chance Rob, open your glove box door and get a good close-up picture of the fuse boxes, especially the right-hand box and post it here. Paul and the rest of us can take a look and see what wires are hooked up. As he mentioned, the one wire (for the reverse lights) could be misplaced and this will be seen.

Peter

From: Robert W. Garven Jr. <rgarven [at] gmail.com>

Sent: November 17, 2016 12:30 PM

To: Paul

Cc: dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 Reverse lights was PCB Fuse Blocks

This was the new 308 GT 41974 European model it was completely disassembled and rebuilt from the ground up for me I thought I would have a car that would be perfect but is turning into a nightmare that's a standard fuse box and relay panel in the picture was taken when or where were rewiring the car

I will check with that release handle is for..,

Thanks for all your help as you know the electronics is the weakest part of my limited knowledge of cars!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:21 AM, Paul <pbennett [at] macnet.com> wrote:

Nor am I able to make any sense. Stared at it for 1/2 hour and still cannot place it into much more than a test fixture or engine stand or ???

Thoughts --

Front Bonnet at top of photo

Fiberglass cockpit - steering column stub at center left

Gearshift tunnel but no gearshift

Freshly black painted throttle pedal

Pull cable on the right is for a bonnet latch release but on wrong side unless it's for rear bonnet.

Relay panel legend doesn't match inserted relays

I tried to match the fuse panel wire colors against various cars and it looks generic 308 even 512

Was this photo with another photo(s) which can provide additional clues?

As Arte Johnson used to say ... "sehr interesting"

paul

I have been so busy not had a chance to even look at the car but just found this

photo which I can make no sense of….

Robert W. Garven Jr.

rgarven [at] gmail.com mailto:rgarven [at] gmail.com

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