Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 185, Issue 51
From: Michael Maulucci (michaelmauluccicomcast.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:08:30 -0800 (PST)
Center console bowed 
I have a 308 and my center console is not bowed 
77 308 GTB
Michael 

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>   1. Re: Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole for
>      sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring
>      a Trailer (Erik Nielsen)
>   2. Re: Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole for
>      sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring
>      a Trailer (LSJ)
>   3. Re: Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole for
>      sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring
>      a Trailer (LSJ)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 07:26:59 -0600
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> To: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS
>    Quattrovalvole for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62,
>    108) | Bring a Trailer
> Message-ID: <4B330598-2B68-472C-8D35-B8EAB3FE7352 [at] gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Yep. 
> 
> We?re playing around with my 931 right now, the build specifies oil 
> squirters.  But then again, I?m using some of the tricks that were already 
> developed at Alpina and another company that shall go nameless for now; not 
> taking it to full Carerra GTR spec, but it?s not going to be slow.  And 
> should piss off the Porsche purists. Win win in my book. 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> True, but both it and the 288 GTO that came before had detail differences 
>> that made them more reliable. One key modification were oil sprayers to cool 
>> the undersides of the pistons (there were two rails that ran down both sides 
>> of the block edge and had little nozzles pointing up. They?d spray a fine 
>> mist of engine oil to cool the pistons. I don?t see or know of any tuner 
>> shop that adds this to turbo builds). Mind you, in some high boost mods, 
>> tuners will coat piston tops with some sort of ceramic coating for heat 
>> shielding.
>> 
>> Not my cup of tea. I?d rather have the GTO or the F40. Or this:
>> 
>> https://rmsothebys.com/en/home/private-sales/r5253-1991-jaguar-xjr-15/1198192
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>> 
>> From: scott saidel
>> Sent: December 22, 2021 11:31 AM
>> To: PeterGT4
>> Cc: The FerrariList
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole 
>> for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring a 
>> Trailer
>> 
>> It has been done - the F40 engine is based on the 308 block.  Not the least 
>> expensive path for sure.
>> 
>> Scottie
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm guessing he means, for example, the bow on the left in this image:
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/163588064086048c7bca92825f920211102_094235-scaled.jpg?fit=1536%2C2048
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 1:28 PM Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>> Anthony ponders . . . ?Why is the center console on every 308 and 328 bowed 
>> in like that? ?
>> 
>> Bowed in?  Where?  What picture?  I?d like to learn something. I don?t 
>> recall our ?78 has any bowing.  Maybe so.
>> 
>> Thanks Anthony
>> 
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> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:19:36 +0000 (UTC)
> From: LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> To: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS
>    Quattrovalvole for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62,
>    108) | Bring a Trailer
> Message-ID: <1095150182.552415.1640279976766 [at] mail.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Hammered at $67.5k. Not bad for what looks like a good car.
> Turbo-ed 308s are really fun. A former Lister M.Scallion has/had a great twin 
> turbo QV that was done 30 years ago. It was an awesome machine!
> 
> LSJ
> 
> 
> 
>    On Thursday, December 23, 2021, 08:27:07 AM EST, Erik Nielsen <judge4re 
> [at] gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> Yep.?
> We?re playing around with my 931 right now, the build specifies oil 
> squirters. ?But then again, I?m using some of the tricks that were already 
> developed at Alpina and another company that shall go nameless for now; not 
> taking it to full Carerra GTR spec, but it?s not going to be slow. ?And 
> should piss off the Porsche purists. Win win in my book.?
> 
> On Dec 22, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ?
> 
> True, but both it and the 288 GTO that came before had detail differences 
> that made them more reliable. One key modification were oil sprayers to cool 
> the undersides of the pistons (there were two rails that ran down both sides 
> of the block edge and had little nozzles pointing up. They?d spray a fine 
> mist of engine oil to cool the pistons. I don?t see or know of any tuner shop 
> that adds this to turbo builds). Mind you, in some high boost mods, tuners 
> will coat piston tops with some sort of ceramic coating for heat shielding.
> 
> ?
> 
> Not my cup of tea. I?d rather have the GTO or the F40. Or this:
> 
> ?
> 
> https://rmsothebys.com/en/home/private-sales/r5253-1991-jaguar-xjr-15/1198192
> 
> ?
> 
> Peter
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> ?
> 
> ?
> 
> From: scott saidel
> Sent: December 22, 2021 11:31 AM
> To: PeterGT4
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole 
> for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring a Trailer
> 
> ?
> 
> It has been done - the F40 engine is based on the 308 block. ?Not the least 
> expensive path for sure.
> 
> ?
> 
> Scottie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 22, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> I'm guessing he means, for example, the bow on the left in this image:
> 
> ?
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/163588064086048c7bca92825f920211102_094235-scaled.jpg?fit=1536%2C2048
> 
> ?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 1:28 PM Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anthony ponders . . . ?Why is the center console on every 308 and 328 bowed 
> in like that???
> 
> ?
> 
> Bowed in?? Where?? What picture?? I?d like to learn something. I don?t recall 
> our ?78 has any bowing.? Maybe so.
> 
> ?
> 
> Thanks Anthony
> 
> ?
> 
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> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:50:27 +0000 (UTC)
> From: LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> To: Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS
>    Quattrovalvole for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62,
>    108) | Bring a Trailer
> Message-ID: <1391967789.559610.1640281828025 [at] mail.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Matt, then you just DO IT!
> When do we convert yours?
> I have a single turbo for mine but am thinking about upgrading to a more 
> modern design.
> 
> LSJ
> 
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 01:42:14 PM EST, Matt Boyd 
> <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> What if you vastly prefer the styling of the 308 and have the money and 
> willingness to modify it?
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 1:39 PM Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If you want to go fast, get a 360.?
> 
> On Dec 22, 2021, at 12:34 PM, A.J. <newgent2tx [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ?I?m assuming he means here. I?ve noticed it before on quite a few 308/328.
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 12:28 PM Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anthony ponders . . . ?Why is the center console on every 308 and 328 bowed 
> in like that???
> 
> ?
> 
> Bowed in?? Where?? What picture?? I?d like to learn something. I don?t recall 
> our ?78 has any bowing.? Maybe so.
> 
> ?
> 
> Thanks Anthony
> 
> ?
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