Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring a Trailer

[Rick Moseley (ramosel]

There are some 23s showing up from time to time, much faster.

And if you pay attention to the Mach Ramps, blatant evidence of the theft of Clyde's F-4 technology.

On Sunday, December 26, 2021, 07:40:02 AM PST, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Helping translate between the two groups.

But if you’re going to get a MiG, the -21 is a much better choice and while still dangerous, less likely to kill you. 

I’ll stick with my unmodified GTS QV…

On Dec 26, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



Aviation... we burned pounds per hour.

so it's only 1800 lbs/hr... at min power.

On Sunday, December 26, 2021, 06:18:03 AM PST, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Don’t forget, it burns five gallons of gas per minute. At idle. 

On Dec 26, 2021, at 12:50 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:



Cool, now I can add that to my wish list...

 

Peter

 

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From: Erik Nielsen
Sent: December 25, 2021 11:01 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring a Trailer

 

They made about the same number and if your Polish is good, you can get one for about the same price…

On Dec 25, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

The 308/328 was a good car up to around 90 mph 

It was a great handling car in the region 

Past that you were in a MiG-15!

 

 

     RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

 

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On Dec 25, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:



Yep. A 308 was never fast. Fun momentum car, but not fast. 

 

But the again, my son’s Bug isn’t fast, but it’s the most fun I’ve had an a car in a long time. 

On Dec 25, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Tell ‘em Erik

These guys are living in dreamland a civic Z would dust it at half the price!

 

 

 

 

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On Dec 25, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:



If you want to get bang for buck, get a crate Coyote engine. 

 

Technology has moved on, you can get a Camry with over 300 hp. Nothing like dropping $100k on an old 308 and still having a soccer mom smoke you on a freeway on-ramp. 

On Dec 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:



Back in the old days, just one bad tank of gas could take down even the best turbo system.

 

Plenty of usage factors to keep in mind.

 

Isn’t it amazing how good a platform the 308 is for forced induction?

 

Building a normally aspirated hot rod is really low on the $/HP scale.

On Dec 24, 2021, at 22:28, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



I know of 3 ventilated blocks that had Norwood systems.

All 3 are back on the road today, sans turbos.

 

Abuse is a relative term, but I'll agree the transaxles will take a bit of punishment, the twill gears... not so much. 

 

 

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 11:15 AM Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Transaxle is fine if you don’t abuse it.

 

No experience with the Koenig setups but the Norwood ones are aging well.

 

A modern single turbo would be a lighter and less complicated solution with minimal lag.

 

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