Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Mega OT: Hobbyist rocket reaches 293k ft

[Rick Moseley (ramosel]

Having worked in that world...  It's a completely different set or rules/regs over FL600 (~60K) above class A.

On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 09:12:35 AM PDT, Hans E. Hansen <flist [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

You're over thinking.

The rules for this activity are very clear. From a technical standpoint, the rocket must pass design and construction inspections. Took 2 years for this guy to design and get approval. Oddly enough, the feds allow amateur rockets to be self policing, by the NAR and Tripoli.

As for the flight, different launch areas have different clearances. Black Rock Desert is one of the very few with an unlimited ceiling. 

I've been to Brothers, OR where they have a 20k ceiling, but that can be extended to 50k briefly by calling the FAA. I've stood beside the guy who made the call shortly before someone put one up to 32k.

Hans. 

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 9:33 PM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Amateur, uhhhh, yep.   Had this happened in the 50s or 60s, way cool.  But you’re looking the same direction I was thinking.   Was this registered with the FAA (I have a niece, lawyer type, who works on this stuff after leaving NASA).   Was CINCNORAD notified?   Something entering NAS at Mach 4 got someone’s attention.   If it was all registered, all is good.  If it wasn’t, there will be a knock on the door and questions asked.  Even at only 4° deviation, that’s 20,500ft (4 miles) off line at apogee… wind direction, descent velocity, cross section, nearest habitation?  This could go from too cool to really dumb in a heartbeat. 

Not like school kids launching an Estes.  

On Oct 4, 2022, at 9:05 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:



https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2008/12/04/E8-28703/requirements-for-amateur-rocket-activities

He’s still an amateur…

On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:43 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:



Damn that is cool.

 

What does it take to launch and fly a rocket? I mean, this is serious crap. Surely it must take clearance from the military to do something like this (or do you just do a Kim Jong-un and fire it anyways?).

 

Peter

 

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From: Hans E. Hansen
Sent: October 4, 2022 11:57 AM
To: PeterGT4
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Subject: [Ferrari] Mega OT: Hobbyist rocket reaches 293k ft

 

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/project-mesos-a-two-stage-flight-to-293-488-ft.175175/
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