Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Mega OT: Hobbyist rocket reaches 293k ft

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Coat hangers and duct tape. And some chewing gum. 

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:
> 
> Large zip ties.l
> 
>> On 10/6/22, Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are those grade 8 or grade 10 bolts holding that thing down?
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 4:25 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My team’s latest test.
>> 
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6KiOMW8z-I0
>> <https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6KiOMW8z-I0>
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 5, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That makes sense.  They launched from the middle of nowhere.
>>> 
>>> The off-topic posts have been...interesting...lately.  Maybe it is just me
>>> but I hate seeing people shitting on other people's successes or good
>>> fortune.  I don't care who pays what for a car or a hotel room.  Good for
>>> them.  Nor do I feel the need to crap on, what appears to be, quite an
>>> accomplishment.  It reminds me of the seven deadly sins and, in
>>> particular, these two:
>>> 
>>> Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the
>>> individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin
>>> from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.
>>> 
>>> Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 12:12 PM Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org
>>> <mailto:FList [at] hanshansen.org>> wrote:
>>> You're over thinking.
>>> 
>>> The rules for this activity are very clear. From a technical standpoint,
>>> the rocket must pass design and construction inspections. Took 2 years for
>>> this guy to design and get approval. Oddly enough, the feds allow amateur
>>> rockets to be self policing, by the NAR and Tripoli.
>>> 
>>> As for the flight, different launch areas have different clearances. Black
>>> Rock Desert is one of the very few with an unlimited ceiling.
>>> 
>>> I've been to Brothers, OR where they have a 20k ceiling, but that can be
>>> extended to 50k briefly by calling the FAA. I've stood beside the guy who
>>> made the call shortly before someone put one up to 32k.
>>> 
>>> Hans.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 9:33 PM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net
>>> <mailto:ramosel [at] pacbell.net>> wrote:
>>> Amateur, uhhhh, yep.   Had this happened in the 50s or 60s, way cool.  But
>>> you’re looking the same direction I was thinking.   Was this registered
>>> with the FAA (I have a niece, lawyer type, who works on this stuff after
>>> leaving NASA).   Was CINCNORAD notified?   Something entering NAS at Mach
>>> 4 got someone’s attention.   If it was all registered, all is good.  If it
>>> wasn’t, there will be a knock on the door and questions asked.  Even at
>>> only 4° deviation, that’s 20,500ft (4 miles) off line at apogee… wind
>>> direction, descent velocity, cross section, nearest habitation?  This
>>> could go from too cool to really dumb in a heartbeat.
>>> 
>>> Not like school kids launching an Estes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 9:05 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:judge4re [at] gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2008/12/04/E8-28703/requirements-for-amateur-rocket-activities
>>>> <https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2008/12/04/E8-28703/requirements-for-amateur-rocket-activities>
>>>> 
>>>> He’s still an amateur…
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:43 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Damn that is cool.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What does it take to launch and fly a rocket? I mean, this is serious
>>>>> crap. Surely it must take clearance from the military to do something
>>>>> like this (or do you just do a Kim Jong-un and fire it anyways?).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Hans E. Hansen <mailto:hans [at] hanshansen.org>
>>>>> Sent: October 4, 2022 11:57 AM
>>>>> To: PeterGT4 <mailto:dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: The FerrariList <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Ferrari] Mega OT: Hobbyist rocket reaches 293k ft
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/project-mesos-a-two-stage-flight-to-293-488-ft.175175/
>>>>> <https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/project-mesos-a-two-stage-flight-to-293-488-ft.175175/>
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