Ferrari Mailing List: Re: High Capacity Magazine Firearms

[Dave Handa (dave]

I must qualify that while I have some firearms training, I am not involved
in law enforcement (LE).

 

I'm confused by this statement though:

 

"Additionally, it would be a rare circumstance in which an armed civilian
would be anything but a distraction to trained personnel in any emergency
situation. Imagine trying to first determine which armed individual is an
adversary and which is a well-meaning but untrained coincidental
participant, then worrying about what an untrained individual will do with a
firearm under stress, and third, what collateral damage will that third
party do during the course of events."

 

If there is an "emergency situation" then absolutely let the professionals
handle it if they are present.  But what most here are considering, is that
LE officers are not going to be present when the "emergency" goes down (most
violent criminals tend to not commit their crimes in the presence of LE)
Quite the contrary, it is because private citizens are "on their own" that
they must act accordingly, without LE assistance.  Interaction with LE after
the incident is another important consideration.but not worth going into
here.

 

My, have we gone far enough off tangent from the "back up gun" issue?  lol

 

Dave

 

 

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From: BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com [mailto:BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:21 PM
To: dave [at] davehanda.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] High Capacity Magazine Firearms

 

In a message dated 9/19/2006 5:44:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,
dave [at] davehanda.com writes:

Actually any qualified SWAT officer should be well trained in one handed
malfunction drills. 

Dave:

 

What you say is true if the injuries are limited to that single area, but
trauma may be more generalized. The speed consideration is a valid point,
however, as well as, depending upon how his gear is worn, accessibility to
additional magazines, available cover, etc. I didn't mean to imply that the
only reason why a backup firearm is used in tac ops is injury, it is just
one of them.

 

My assumption that you and I are perhaps the only "qualified SWAT officers"
on the list has a high probability of a validity. I do believe that anyone
who is not "duty bound" and who cannot clearly articulate a valid
probability of success in a conflict environment should make disengagement
their principle tactic. Additionally, it would be a rare circumstance in
which an armed civilian would be anything but a distraction to trained
personnel in any emergency situation. Imagine trying to first determine
which armed individual is an adversary and which is a well-meaning but
untrained coincidental participant, then worrying about what an untrained
individual will do with a firearm under stress, and third, what collateral
damage will that third party do during the course of events. 

 

Dr. Steve 

 

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