Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Mustang Suspensions

[LS (lashdeep]

Ferrari is the ultimate in this realm I think. They had a form of "paddle"
shifting that Gilles V tested in 1978 which went first to a road car with
the F355.

Agreed on the IRS, they stayed with live axles because of the strength and
low costs. Then, when IRS did finally show up, it was so heavy. Kenne
Brown makes a nice tubular setup that is light. And, on a smooth
racetrack, the ind suspension's advantages are slimmer as there is less
suspension travel.

LS

--- Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> wrote:

> Look at how long it took them to wrap their minds around  IRS.... only
> to 
> kill it in this latest iteration due to cost factors.
> I think they sort of lost something along the way in terms of innovative
> 
> technologies. What ever happened to race on Sunday, sell on Monday?
> Ferrari (getting back to content. lol) seems to be the only
> manaufacturer 
> presently that embraces this mentality.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> To: "Jim and Cheryl Brown" <barchetta [at] verizon.net>
> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Mustang Suspensions
> 
> 
> > It's disappointing actually...the underpinnings that Ford puts into
> the
> > Mustang are pathetic.
> >
> > Strut front suspension??
> >
> > That's seriously archaic.
> >
> > Why can't they copy a 911 or M3?
> >
> > LS
> >
> >
> > --- Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> You are correct. It was the spring rates and bushings that were
> revised
> >> in
> >> 2003.... It's interesting to see how profit margins shape the content
> of
> >> a
> >> high volume car like the GT500 versus a Gallardo or F430.
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> >> To: "JB" <barchetta [at] verizon.net>
> >> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:07 PM
> >> Subject: [Ferrari] Mustang Suspensions
> >>
> >>
> >> > All Cobras got ind rear susp in 1999 and do to this day.
> >> >
> >> > The GT500 has a live axle with a Panhard rod and third link to
> control
> >> > pinion angle. It's setup very well, nobody on this list will ever
> know
> >> the
> >> > difference.
> >> >
> >> > There are pros and cons of ind vs. live axle. Ind is superior but a
> >> > *properly* setup live axle can be quite good too.
> >> >
> >> > LS
> >> >
> >> > --- "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> GT500 isn't a Cobra though!  I am pretty sure they are solid rear
> >> axle
> >> >> cars.
> >> >>
> >> >> Brian
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim and Cheryl Brown wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Probably true except the solid rear axle part. Cobras starting
> with
> >> >> 2003, I
> >> >> >think, had fully independent rears.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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