Ferrari Mailing List: Re: *** SPOILER *** OZ GRAND PRIX *** SPOILER ***

[Tom Reynolds (kjtar]

I thought Bridgestone was testing slicks during off season testing this last
winter?  Upcoming change possible?  I would like to see the real slicks come
back.
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK

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To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] *** SPOILER *** OZ GRAND PRIX *** SPOILER ***


> Recall the active suspensions of the early 90's where the teams could make
suspension adjustments from the garage, and change the settings for each
corner, therefore making the car partially remote controlled. That was short
lived, and rightfully so, but the TC is really needed for the safety of the
sport. Unless you want NASCAR like pile ups and 50% attrition, it is needed,
and although it is a driver aid, it will not separate the best drivers. It
will make starting position that much more important (i.e. Hamilton leading
and pulling away while drivers are struggling to get through traffic) and
mid pack at the start will result in many collisions throughout the season.
If you are doing away with TC, why not bring back slick tires more more
mechanical grip?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LarryT
> Date: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:21 am
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] *** SPOILER *** OZ GRAND PRIX *** SPOILER ***
> To: cmlf1 [at] optonline.net
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>
> > I think you are 100% correct. The drivers need to have the
> > ultimate ability
> > to drive F1 and giving them traction controls, automatic start
> > buttons, and
> > all the other options that make it easier to drive just moves
> > the drivers
> > down a few pegs on the ability scale.
> >
> > I know all about the argument of making F1 cars the ultimate in
> > technology,
> > but I think electronic aids are going too far. I'll take all
> > the wide
> > tires, aero aids, ground affects, and on and on but electronics
> > are not
> > really tangible IMHO. Tangible isn't quite the right word to
> > describe what
> > I mean but it's all I can think of at the moment. \
> >
> > I gues I want the cars to be the ultimate machines - but I want
> > the drivers
> > to have the ultimate ability as well. With enough aids, someone
> > as
> > uncoordinated as me could drive a F1 - if I got a dose of
> > testosterone too.
> > ;-)
> >
> > Anyway - start the flames if you must =
> >
> > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From:
> > To: "Larry Turner"
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] *** SPOILER *** OZ GRAND PRIX *** SPOILER ***
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I agree with the open technology viewpoint but there is
> > something in me
> > > that
> > > likes the no traction control requirement. I think that it
> > will really
> > > help
> > > to separate the drivers from the "plant the right foot and
> > steer" crowd.
> > >
> > > While traction control obviously doesn't prevent the car from
> > going off
> > > the
> > > track, it still is a little like setting your video car race
> > game on the
> > > "easy, no damage" option.
> > >
> > > These guys might need a race or two to relearn what it is like
> > to actually
> > > have to control the throttle. I think it will be fun to watch
> > to see who
> > > can
> > > do it and who can't.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > In a message dated 3/16/2008 11:39:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > rolindsay [at] yahoo.com writes:
> > >
> > > Clyde wrote,
> > >
> > > --- clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net wrote:
> > >
> > >> I agree mu quess is after there is a serious crash
> > >> in turn one like SPA this no traction control will
> > >> go away
> > >
> > > ...and that may be true but I'd rather think that what
> > > happened in Melbourne is, (1) Ferrari's engines aren't
> > > quite stable yet and, (2) A whole bunch of talented
> > > drivers just learned that there is a honkin-big
> > > difference between practicing against the clock,
> > > without driver aids, and dicing with 20+ other racers
> > > AND having to deal with a car just being a car.
> > >
> > > What I expect is that instead of reinstalling driver
> > > aids (in the short term), the drivers will learn to be
> > > more cautious WHILE competing. That may be counter to
> > > what the F1 Management wanted. It may make more
> > > boring races, not more competitive driving.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> > > rick
> > > PS: Personally, I'd like F1 to follow the old CanAm
> > > model and be free to do anything technologically that
> > > they please!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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