Re: *** SPOILER *** OZ GRAND PRIX *** SPOILER ***
From: Rick Lindsay (rolindsayyahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
No flames.  Good points.  I guess my original opinion
is based in my appreciation of F1 cars and the teams
who produce them - and my general disrespect for the
pompous little pricks who drive them. :-P  Wooohooo!

rick

--- LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

> I think you are 100% correct.  The drivers need to
> have the ultimate ability 
> to drive F1 and giving them traction controls,
> automatic start buttons, and 
> all the other options that make it easier to drive
> just moves the drivers 
> down a few pegs on the ability scale.
> 
> I know all about the argument of making F1 cars the
> ultimate in technology, 
> but I think electronic aids are going too far.  I'll
> take all the wide 
> tires, aero aids, ground affects, and on and on but
> electronics are not 
> really tangible IMHO.  Tangible isn't quite the
> right word to describe what 
> I mean but it's all I can think of at the moment.  \
> 
> I gues I want the cars to be the ultimate machines -
> but I want the drivers 
> to have the ultimate ability as well.  With enough
> aids, someone as 
> uncoordinated as me could drive a F1 - if I got a
> dose of testosterone too. 
> ;-)
> 
> Anyway - start the flames if you must  =
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <JAshburne [at] aol.com>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] *** SPOILER *** OZ GRAND PRIX
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> 
> 
> >
> > I agree with the open technology viewpoint but
> there is something in me 
> > that
> > likes the no traction control requirement.  I
> think that it will  really 
> > help
> > to separate the drivers from the "plant the right
> foot and steer"  crowd.
> >
> > While traction control obviously doesn't prevent
> the car from going off 
> > the
> > track, it still is a little like setting your
> video car race game on  the
> > "easy, no damage" option.
> >
> > These guys might need a race or two to relearn
> what it is like to actually
> > have to control the throttle.  I think it will be
> fun to watch to see who 
> > can
> > do it and who can't.
> >
> > John
> >
> > In a message dated 3/16/2008 11:39:23 A.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> > rolindsay [at] yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Clyde  wrote,
> >
> > --- clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net wrote:
> >
> >> I agree mu  quess is after there is a serious
> crash
> >> in turn one like SPA this no  traction control
> will
> >> go away
> >
> > ...and that may be true but I'd  rather think that
> what
> > happened in Melbourne is, (1) Ferrari's engines 
> aren't
> > quite stable yet and, (2) A whole bunch of
> talented
> > drivers just  learned that there is a honkin-big
> > difference between practicing against  the clock,
> > without driver aids, and dicing with 20+ other
> racers
> > AND  having to deal with a car just being a car.
> >
> > What I expect is that  instead of reinstalling
> driver
> > aids (in the short term), the drivers will  learn
> to be
> > more cautious WHILE competing.  That may be
> counter  to
> > what the F1 Management wanted.  It may make more
> > boring races,  not more competitive driving.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > rick
> > PS: Personally,  I'd like F1 to follow the old
> CanAm
> > model and be free to do anything  technologically
> that
> > they please!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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