Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari California

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DITTO!

Back in 86 I paid $5 a gallon in Germany, about the same time tubo charged 
1.5 L 12 cyl F1 cars

cranked out 1200 HP.
Stephen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ken rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>

To: "Stephen" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>

Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:59 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
Great idea, Dan.
While we're at it, in a world where gasoline is $4.00 a gallon, how
badly do we need all the gee-gaws that add pound after unwanted
pound, and the barrage of superfluous electrical stuff that mandates
a second battery, just to run the thermoelectric cooler in the
armrest, the parking system and the digital entertainment subwoofers.
How about a California Spyder weighing oh - 2800 pounds with a cloth
top, manly manual steering and transmission (hydraulics are heavy)
sporting a 2.5 L V12 which with today's tech could easily output
close to 400 HP.
I'm tired of cars that look like they beat them with an ugly stick.
k
On May 14, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Dan Warlick wrote:
I have a '61 250GT PF Cabriolet. (Series II of course). The car is
arguably
and basically a 250 California Spider without the gill vents and a
short
windshield. I see no resemblance what so ever except for maybe the
hood
scoop. It would seem that the American big 3 retro designs  (i.e.
mustang,
challenger, camaro) received much praise and warm welcomes. Perhaps
Ferrari
would view such a design move as a rehash or some sort of
regression. It
would be very nice to have a small, light, hand built from exotic
materials,
convertible that actually is a design study on classic Ferrari
design. It
looks like the new kids in the design houses are only reflecting on
generic
elements such as "it had little vents in the fenders" or "it had a
hood
scoop" and not taking notice of the overall liquidity of design.
Even in the
F430 nose it's NOT anything like the 1961/62 Tipo 156 Shark Nose F1
cars at
all. I think I saw all of this coming but didn't recognize it about
20 years
ago when all the younger guys began "customizing" and lowering
trucks while
we were still actually turning wrenches. The passion was
fading......Someone's parents weren't doing their job passing the
torch. The
answer to "What's under your hood?" changed from a conversation of;
changing
out SB400 cranks for SB350's making long rod 388's and 377's/cams
solid or
hyd?/ Carb CFM but u hadda rejet".........to " I got this awesome
chrome
stick-on engine dress up kit at Pep Boys.....look at my neon light
under the
bumper..I can fit my head in my tail pipe...I got pink plug wires
and this
really cool heads up display big screen TV....blah blah blah..!
Did these
guys grow up to be the designers? I am becoming more and more
disappointed
with all new car designs with the exception of as Charles has so
astutely
pointed out, Maserati and Aston. Is there any way we could pass
around a PDF
file or Word/Works file and see what we could come up with? I mean it
doesn't make us Jimmy Glick' but it might turn out to be a pretty
damn good
interpretation of what Ferrari should have built considering our vast
geographic locations and differing opinions.
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
It's time to watch "Ferrari, Victory By Design" again.   In
addition to
the
250GT Ken mentioned, the 250P, 275GTB, 330s the various 312's and the
365s,
etc. can be seen and heard.  IMO, once we went to car design by
government
edict we began to slowly move to a world of cookie cutter car
design in
approx. 1968 .
Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
Consider the 250 SWB. No character lines, no supernumerary exhaust
tips or retractible hardtop causing the trunk to look like a turtle
humped over fucking. Just pure sweet simple unadorned 100% pur sang
car. How hard can it be to do that again?
k
On May 13, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Charles Perry wrote:
Bleah. Saturn Sky meets Ferris Bueller body kit. I miss the
beautiful
Ferraris...
I'll agree that the modern Ferraris are more striking in person,
but I
don't think there's been a beautiful one since the 355. I think
Maserati
and Aston Martin have cornered the market on beautiful for some
time
now...
-- charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Warlick [mailto:edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:03 AM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
http://www.ferraricalifornia.com/webapp/downloads.htm?locale=en_GB

The photos are out!!!!! Wow!!!
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Re: Ferrari California	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Stephen Sherman (shermanwildblue.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT)