Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari California

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It's well known then Enzo's primary interest was always racing and his road 
car program was there to pay the bills to keep the racing going.  I wonder 
what (if anything) Ferrari would have done differently if he'd placed more 
emphasis on road cars?  Perhaps designs that might appeal to more people (no 
idea what that would entail) ?  more options? a broader model range?
or ???
Maybe Ferrari would make more cars but they would be valued less?  Would 
they have tried to make a "People's Ferrari" ala the Porsche 914?  Perhaps 
as a JV with FIAT?
Just wondering and wasting time ;-)
Have a nice Hump day -
Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Warlick" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>

To: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:22 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
I have a '61 250GT PF Cabriolet. (Series II of course). The car is arguably 
and basically a 250 California Spider without the gill vents and a short 
windshield. I see no resemblance what so ever except for maybe the hood 
scoop. It would seem that the American big 3 retro designs  (i.e. mustang, 
challenger, camaro) received much praise and warm welcomes. Perhaps Ferrari 
would view such a design move as a rehash or some sort of regression. It 
would be very nice to have a small, light, hand built from exotic 
materials, convertible that actually is a design study on classic Ferrari 
design. It looks like the new kids in the design houses are only reflecting 
on generic elements such as "it had little vents in the fenders" or "it had 
a hood scoop" and not taking notice of the overall liquidity of design. 
Even in the F430 nose it's NOT anything like the 1961/62 Tipo 156 Shark 
Nose F1 cars at all. I think I saw all of this coming but didn't recognize 
it about 20 years ago when all the younger guys began "customizing" and 
lowering trucks while we were still actually turning wrenches. The passion 
was fading......Someone's parents weren't doing their job passing the 
torch. The answer to "What's under your hood?" changed from a conversation 
of; changing out SB400 cranks for SB350's making long rod 388's and 
377's/cams solid or hyd?/ Carb CFM but u hadda rejet".........to " I got 
this awesome chrome stick-on engine dress up kit at Pep Boys.....look at my 
neon light under the bumper..I can fit my head in my tail pipe...I got pink 
plug wires and this really cool heads up display big screen TV....blah blah 
blah..!    Did these guys grow up to be the designers? I am becoming more 
and more disappointed with all new car designs with the exception of as 
Charles has so astutely pointed out, Maserati and Aston. Is there any way 
we could pass around a PDF file or Word/Works file and see what we could 
come up with? I mean it doesn't make us Jimmy Glick' but it might turn out 
to be a pretty damn good interpretation of what Ferrari should have built 
considering our vast geographic locations and differing opinions.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
It's time to watch "Ferrari, Victory By Design" again.   In addition to 
the

250GT Ken mentioned, the 250P, 275GTB, 330s the various 312's and the 
365s,

etc. can be seen and heard.  IMO, once we went to car design by 
government

edict we began to slowly move to a world of cookie cutter car design in

approx. 1968 .
Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>

To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:03 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
Consider the 250 SWB. No character lines, no supernumerary exhaust
tips or retractible hardtop causing the trunk to look like a turtle
humped over fucking. Just pure sweet simple unadorned 100% pur sang
car. How hard can it be to do that again?
k
On May 13, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Charles Perry wrote:
Bleah. Saturn Sky meets Ferris Bueller body kit. I miss the beautiful
Ferraris...
I'll agree that the modern Ferraris are more striking in person, but I
don't think there's been a beautiful one since the 355. I think
Maserati
and Aston Martin have cornered the market on beautiful for some time
now...
-- charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Warlick [mailto:edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:03 AM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Ferrari California
http://www.ferraricalifornia.com/webapp/downloads.htm?locale=en_GB

The photos are out!!!!! Wow!!!
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Re: Ferrari California	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT)