Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Flights and their crews

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Switzerland is looking better and better...

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
> Yes, and it's a shame.  Look at the salaries professional athletes make, and
> what do they contribute to society or the common weal in general?  I know, I
> know.  Money talks, B.S. walks, etc.  All granted, but theoretically,
> teachers, ministers, etc. should make a lot more than they do because, one
> could argue (and I suppose for the moment I am) that they contribute more to
> people and their condition in general than (name a pro athlete.) But, then
> again, if it's market/money driven, things seem to end up as they "normally"
> do.
> Maybe we could get FedGovCo to realign the "value" of various occupations
> and mandate minimum payscales?
> Tom (ducking for cover, but feeling NOTHING will be deep enough for this
> one)
> Tulsa, OK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>
> To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews
>
>
>> All stop! Whatever the merits of pilots and pizza drivers, the market
>> will price jobs correctly. Consider the alternative! Do you want
>> Rangel or Waxman pontificating on what your salary should be? Sadly,
>> there appears to be a surfeit of capable Canadair 200 pilots around,
>> meanwhile no one wants to stay up all night in the convenience store
>> and risk getting their ass shot off.
>>
>> If Hanna Montana can sell out a stadium at $50 - $100 a seat netting
>> the promoter several million, then she is not out of line asking for a
>> sizeable chunk of same. Paris HIlton made $7,000,000 a year ago by
>> showing up at parties for $100,000 a pop and selling her sex tapes on
>> the net. She is acting rationally, it is society that has it's values
>> screwed up.
>>
>> Before we start passing judgement on compensation we must first answer
>> the eternal question: is that Ferrari really worth that much? If
>> someone pays retail for it the question is answered.
>>
>> ken
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Rich wrote:
>>
>> > What you said is true, but not everyone can pass the many stages of
>> > testing that is required to be a Commercial ATP either.Remember that
>> > Com Air  Jet that crashed in  Kentucky 3 years ago killing 49 of the
>> > 50 people on board. The pilots took off on the wrong runway. Guess
>> > what Com Air pays its pilots of it's 50 seat jets.( see link below)
>> > 7-11's in my area pay more to their HS dropouts that can't count
>> > change correctly.
>> > Rich
>> >
>> >      Company  Equipment  Position  Year  Pay Rate  Guarantee  Bids
>> > Per Diem  Per Bid Period  Per Year
>> >      Comair  Canadair 200  First Officer  1  $22.00  75 hours  12 /
>> > year  $1.55 /hr  $1650  $19800
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.aviationinterviews.com/pay_rates/comair.html
>> >
>> >  ----- Original Message -----
>> >  From: Brian E. Buxton
>> >  To: Rich
>> >  Cc: The FerrariList
>> >  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:03 PM
>> >  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews
>> >
>> >
>> >  It takes a lot more skill and training to be a surgeon than a
>> > flight attendant though.  And surgeons are usually saving the life
>> > of someone who is definitely dying, and they do it daily.  Most
>> > flight attendants may not have an experience like the one in NY in
>> > their entire careers.  Plus, not just anyone can be a surgeon!
>> >
>> >  Brian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Rich wrote:
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
>> > To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
>> > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:43 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews
>> >
>> >
>> >  Quite true. I dated a flight attendant for a few years and the
>> > amount of
>> > training they get for this is way beyond what most people understand.
>> > Couple that with the crap they have to put up with from passengers who
>> > still think of them as air-waitresses and it makes it all the more
>> > impressive that they can do what this crew did.
>> >
>> > -- charles
>> >    ==================
>> >
>> > Even worse is how bad flight attendant pay ( and even pilot pay as of
>> > recent ) is in comparison to their responsibilities. If a
>> > Anesthesiologist
>> > making $ 300k screws up in the OR, the worst thing that can happen
>> > is one
>> > person dies. If a flight crew member screws up , hundreds of people
>> > could
>> > die.  Who really deserves the $ 300,000 salaries more?
>> > Rich
>> >
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> >
> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/brianbuxton%40buxtonmotorsports.com
>> >
>> > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
>> > and F1 Headlines
>> > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  --
>> >
>> >  Brian E. Buxton, President
>> >
>> >  <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>> >
>> >  Buxton Motorsports, Inc.
>> >
>> >  301 North Royal Ave.
>> >
>> >  Buxton Plaza
>> >
>> >  Evansville, IN 47715-2866
>> >
>> >  (812) 476-2281 x 209 office
>> >
>> >  (812) 760-5513 mobile
>> >
>> >  <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>> >
>> >  Member ThaList.com
>> >
>> >  <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>> >
>> >  President, Brian Buxton Enterprises, Inc.
>> >
>> >  Nationwide Enclosed Auto Transportation
>> >
>> >  <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>> >
>> >  Founder & Past President
>> >
>> >  SO. IN Region PCA
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rentiers%40mail.com
>> >
>> > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
>> > and F1 Headlines
>> > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>> >
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net
>>
>> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
>> and F1 Headlines
>> http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/07
>>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/judge4re%40gmail.com
>
> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
> and F1 Headlines
> http://www.F1Headlines.com/
>