Re: Flights and their crews | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: ken rentiers (rentiers![]() |
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:31:56 -0800 (PST) |
here is little Effie’s head BY E. E. CUMMINGS here is little Effie’s head whose brains are made of gingerbread when the judgment day comes God will find six crumbs stooping by the coffinlid waiting for something to rise as the other somethings did— you imagine His surprise bellowing through the general noise Where is Effie who was dead? —to God in a tiny voice, i am may the first crumb said whereupon its fellow five crumbs chuckled as if they were alive and number two took up the song, might i’m called and did no wrong cried the third crumb, i am should and this is my little sister could with our big brother who is would don’t punish us for we were good; and the last crumb with some shame whispered unto God, my name is must and with the others i’ve been Effie who isn’t alive just imagine it I say God amid a monstrous din watch your step and follow me stooping by Effie’s little, in (want a match or can you see?) which the six subjunctive crumbs twitch like mutilated thumbs: picture His peering biggest whey coloured face on which a frown puzzles, but I know the way— (nervously Whose eyes approve the blessed while His ears are crammed with the strenuous music of the innumerable capering damned) —staring wildly up and down the here we are now judgment day cross the threshold have no dread lift the sheet back in this way. here is little Effie’s head whose brains are made of gingerbread On Jan 16, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Tom Reynolds wrote:
Yes, and it's a shame. Look at the salaries professional athletes make, and what do they contribute to society or the common weal in general? I know, Iknow. Money talks, B.S. walks, etc. All granted, but theoretically,teachers, ministers, etc. should make a lot more than they do because, one could argue (and I suppose for the moment I am) that they contribute more to people and their condition in general than (name a pro athlete.) But, then again, if it's market/money driven, things seem to end up as they "normally"do.Maybe we could get FedGovCo to realign the "value" of various occupationsand mandate minimum payscales?Tom (ducking for cover, but feeling NOTHING will be deep enough for thisone) Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com> To: <kjtar [at] cox.net> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crewshttp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/brianbuxton% 40buxtonmotorsports.comAll stop! Whatever the merits of pilots and pizza drivers, the market will price jobs correctly. Consider the alternative! Do you want Rangel or Waxman pontificating on what your salary should be? Sadly, there appears to be a surfeit of capable Canadair 200 pilots around, meanwhile no one wants to stay up all night in the convenience store and risk getting their ass shot off. If Hanna Montana can sell out a stadium at $50 - $100 a seat nettingthe promoter several million, then she is not out of line asking for asizeable chunk of same. Paris HIlton made $7,000,000 a year ago by showing up at parties for $100,000 a pop and selling her sex tapes on the net. She is acting rationally, it is society that has it's values screwed up.Before we start passing judgement on compensation we must first answerthe eternal question: is that Ferrari really worth that much? If someone pays retail for it the question is answered. ken On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Rich wrote:What you said is true, but not everyone can pass the many stages of testing that is required to be a Commercial ATP either.Remember that Com Air Jet that crashed in Kentucky 3 years ago killing 49 of the 50 people on board. The pilots took off on the wrong runway. Guess what Com Air pays its pilots of it's 50 seat jets.( see link below) 7-11's in my area pay more to their HS dropouts that can't count change correctly. Rich Company Equipment Position Year Pay Rate Guarantee Bids Per Diem Per Bid Period Per Year Comair Canadair 200 First Officer 1 $22.00 75 hours 12 / year $1.55 /hr $1650 $19800 http://www.aviationinterviews.com/pay_rates/comair.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian E. Buxton To: Rich Cc: The FerrariList Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews It takes a lot more skill and training to be a surgeon than a flight attendant though. And surgeons are usually saving the life of someone who is definitely dying, and they do it daily. Most flight attendants may not have an experience like the one in NY in their entire careers. Plus, not just anyone can be a surgeon! Brian Rich wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com> To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews Quite true. I dated a flight attendant for a few years and the amount oftraining they get for this is way beyond what most people understand. Couple that with the crap they have to put up with from passengers whostill think of them as air-waitresses and it makes it all the more impressive that they can do what this crew did. -- charles ==================Even worse is how bad flight attendant pay ( and even pilot pay as ofrecent ) is in comparison to their responsibilities. If a Anesthesiologist making $ 300k screws up in the OR, the worst thing that can happen is one person dies. If a flight crew member screws up , hundreds of people could die. Who really deserves the $ 300,000 salaries more? Rich _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlines http://www.F1Headlines.com/ -- Brian E. Buxton, President <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Buxton Motorsports, Inc. 301 North Royal Ave. Buxton Plaza Evansville, IN 47715-2866 (812) 476-2281 x 209 office (812) 760-5513 mobile <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Member ThaList.com <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> President, Brian Buxton Enterprises, Inc. Nationwide Enclosed Auto Transportation <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Founder & Past President SO. 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- Re: Flights and their crews, (continued)
- Re: Flights and their crews Ken Rentiers, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews philville dejazzd.com, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews Tom Reynolds, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews Erik Nielsen, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews ken rentiers, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews rolindsay, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews Hans E. Hansen, January 16 2009
- Re: Flights and their crews Brian E. Buxton, January 16 2009
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