Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Flights and their crews

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   I have always felt that if you are worth more, or are not happy, go
   some where else and or do some thing else. End of story.
   
   Phil


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com>
   Date: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:40 pm
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > All stop! Whatever the merits of pilots and pizza drivers, the
   > market
   > will price jobs correctly. Consider the alternative! Do you
   > want
   > Rangel or Waxman pontificating on what your salary should be?
   > Sadly,
   > there appears to be a surfeit of capable Canadair 200 pilots
   > around,
   > meanwhile no one wants to stay up all night in the convenience
   > store
   > and risk getting their ass shot off.
   >
   > If Hanna Montana can sell out a stadium at $50 - $100 a seat
   > netting
   > the promoter several million, then she is not out of line asking
   > for a
   > sizeable chunk of same. Paris HIlton made $7,000,000 a year ago
   > by
   > showing up at parties for $100,000 a pop and selling her sex
   > tapes on
   > the net. She is acting rationally, it is society that has it's
   > values
   > screwed up.
   >
   > Before we start passing judgement on compensation we must first
   > answer
   > the eternal question: is that Ferrari really worth that much?
   > If
   > someone pays retail for it the question is answered.
   >
   > ken
   >
   > On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Rich wrote:
   >
   > > What you said is true, but not everyone can pass the many
   > stages of
   > > testing that is required to be a Commercial ATP
   > either.Remember that
   > > Com Air  Jet that crashed in  Kentucky 3 years ago
   > killing 49 of the
   > > 50 people on board. The pilots took off on the wrong runway.
   > Guess
   > > what Com Air pays its pilots of it's 50 seat jets.( see link
   > below)
   > > 7-11's in my area pay more to their HS dropouts that can't
   > count
   > > change correctly.
   > > Rich
   > >
   > >      Company  Equipment
   > Position  Year  Pay Rate  Guarantee
   > Bids
   > > Per Diem  Per Bid Period  Per Year
   > >      Comair  Canadair 200
   > First Officer  1  $22.00  75 hours  12
   > /
   > > year  $1.55 /hr  $1650  $19800
   > >
   > >
   > > http://www.aviationinterviews.com/pay_rates/comair.html
   > >
   > >  ----- Original Message -----
   > >  From: Brian E. Buxton
   > >  To: Rich
   > >  Cc: The FerrariList
   > >  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:03 PM
   > >  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews
   > >
   > >
   > >  It takes a lot more skill and training to be a surgeon
   > than a
   > > flight attendant though.  And surgeons are usually saving
   > the life
   > > of someone who is definitely dying, and they do it
   > daily.  Most
   > > flight attendants may not have an experience like the one in
   > NY in
   > > their entire careers.  Plus, not just anyone can be a surgeon!
   > >
   > >  Brian
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >  Rich wrote:
   > >
   > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
   > > To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
   > > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:43 AM
   > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Flights and their crews
   > >
   > >
   > >  Quite true. I dated a flight attendant for a few years
   > and the
   > > amount of
   > > training they get for this is way beyond what most people
   > understand.> Couple that with the crap they have to put up with
   > from passengers who
   > > still think of them as air-waitresses and it makes it all the more
   > > impressive that they can do what this crew did.
   > >
   > > -- charles
   > >    ==================
   > >
   > > Even worse is how bad flight attendant pay ( and even pilot
   > pay as of
   > > recent ) is in comparison to their responsibilities. If
   > a
   > > Anesthesiologist
   > > making $ 300k screws up in the OR, the worst thing that can
   > happen
   > > is one
   > > person dies. If a flight crew member screws up , hundreds of
   > people
   > > could
   > > die.  Who really deserves the $ 300,000 salaries more?
   > > Rich
   > >
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