Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Require Driving School? Yes or No?

[Steve Jenkins (steve]

There are still parts of Mexico that have the same rules - they're just a
little off the beaten path (but only a little!). I've seen a 12 year old get
served Corona!

 

SJ

 

From: Red5hilser [at] aol.com [mailto:Red5hilser [at] aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com; ItsmeMrWright [at] aol.com; Rexnbutchie [at] 
aol.com;
Staxwax [at] aol.com; marlene.burk [at] wamu.net
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?

 

Back in the mists of time, the day after I turned 14, my mom took me down to
the DMV in Santa Ana (the only one in Orange County back then), where I got
my first Calif. Drivers License. Since we had an RFD address, and lived out
in the orange groves, I qualified for a regular CDL as we were classified as
farmers. <g>

 

My 1st car, which I bought a year later for $400 dollars of MY OWN money was
a baby blue '42 Ford Club Coupe. I drove down to Tijuana and had a naugahide
tuck & roll interior installed for $80 usd to complement the fuzzy dice that
my girlfriend had made me, and the naked hula girl shift knob that I bought
at Pep Boys for $2.95. Yea, cLyDe, it was 3 on-the-floor.

 

In Tijuana, they just double parked the car out in the street when I got
there and worked on it out there. By the time that I ate dinner, and spent a
few hours of fun and games at the infamous Blue Fox nightclub, it was done.
BTW, the drinking rules in TJ at the time, were if you're tall enough to see
over the bar counter, you're old enough to drink like the next man.

 

Life was so much simpler then.  Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

 

In a message dated 2/13/2009 12:24:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
stevej [at] cheatcodes.com writes:

Someone said this years ago on this list when we were having a
discussion like this:

"In Germany, they consider driving instruction a right, and driving a
privilege.

In the US, they consider driving a right, and driving instruction a
privilege. :)"

Except in Idaho... they just hand you keys as soon as your legs are long
enough to reach the tractor pedals.

SJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fleischer [mailto:themightytoe [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: Ferrarilist
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?

OK

I have been reading this thread for a bit and as an HPDE instructor, I 
will put it out there to my Ferrari list pals who I think are a great 
and entertaining group...  Would I want to share track time with you 
guys on a road course?   Hell no, I value my life too much.

Bunch of back seat drivers if I ever saw them...  I would be genuinely 
surprised to see more than 10% of this list be able to execute a heel 
and toe down shift consistently or to run a single lap in any car, let 
alone their prized Ferrari at 10/10ths.  Seriously your a bunch of 
waxers when it comes to real driving, the PCA and BMW CCA guys would eat

your lunches no question.   No question the rides look and sound better,

but don't fool yourselves into thinking the 370Z auto rev matching was 
not built specifically for you just like those F1 paddles in 80% of new 
Ferrari's. 

As for the ZR1, yeah its a monster of a car, and not for the 
inexperienced, but in the hands of a bad driver, a Jetta is dangerous.  
The problem is not the horsepower though, that's like saying the problem

with guns is all the bullets... (hope this stays on topic after 
that)...  I am a firm believer that in the US of A, driver training is 
abysmal, no one should learn anything more than the rules for dodge ball

and the proper form of a sit up from their gym teacher...  We Americans 
start out with terrible training and then spend the rest of our lives 
adding bad habits to that poor training.  I know many adults who could 
not manage to parallel park to save their lives.  Take the bad training 
and habits and throw in a total lack of regard for your fellow man and 
you have a bit of a dangerous situation.   Before you point fingers at 
all those kids who are getting bad training... What did you do to 
improve the same bad training you received?  I learned to drive in the 
UK and even that was not sufficient training in my opinion...  I pro 
actively went out and attended many driving schools and car control 
clinics right after I got out of college. 

I think that driver training is changing, here in IL (state of 
corruption that it is) driver training is probably the most strict in 
the country, they just bumped new driver seat time requirements from 50 
to 100 hours of logged driving with a licensed driver (parent) or 
instructor before a license is granted.  Kids here need to keep a log 
book (like a pilot in training).  I think that is a step in the right 
direction.  Next step is mandatory in car testing for the first few 
years of driving, and retesting at regular intervals (like every 5 
years).  (Hey that would create jobs too...)  No demonstration of safe 
skills, no license.  Plain and simple. 

No matter how much training you give, there will still be someone who's 
skills are exceeded by their egos and our insurance rates will go up...

I don't blame them anymore than I blame people in Texas for letting 
black mold grow in their duct works for raising my insurance rates...  
Rick go check your ducts man!

:)


Larry B wrote:
> You mean if I hand my wife the keys to my Ferrari she might not come
back alive? Hmmm.  For as long as I've owned it she hasn't planted her
rear in the driver's seat, but this gives me reason to rethink that
position.  
>  
> Okay, just kidding.  Probably.
>  
> LarryDate: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:14:12 -0800From:
cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com
> . . . . Do we really toss the wife the keys to our Ferraris and hope
they come back alive? 
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