Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news

[clyde romero (clyderomero]

Its total Bullshit 
This guys doesn’t know his ass from 3rd base.
The Airbus has a cable rudder and has never experienced a triple failure of
its flight computers
I have been an airbus pilot since 1999 with over 70000hrs of 319,320,321,330
time.
It’s the safest airplane flying


            
  
Clyde
 
Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
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Clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:Rich355 [at] comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:10 PM
To: clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news


> Any guesses what the culprit was on last nights event?  Tail lock up?
> DOUG
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So far it has all the same indications as that 1994 ATR 72 crash in Indiana 
of loss of control over ice perhaps. Planes slow down on final and have less

airspeed margin to  overcome any slight ice accumulation on lift surfaces. 
One wing can stall before the other leading to a spin entry and  vertical 
dive like last night. If i had to bet my 401 k on it now, i would lean to 
that cause.
Rich

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> From: <Red5hilser [at] aol.com>
> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:50 PM
> Subject: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news
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>> Hey Capt'n cLyDe: So . . . what's yer opinion on this. Sully did an
>> outstanding piece of flying to get everybody home safe and sound, IMHO.
>> It's not
>> about him, but the Airbus instead.
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>> Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
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>> Might find this interesting about  the Airbus crash.  Got this forwarded
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>> a friend who has been a  lifelong pilot and aviation buff, and obviously
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>> got from some of his  aircraft friends.  I've heard others complain about
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>> Interesting  what he thinks of Air Bus??? I had asked him if he knew the
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>> The dumb shit press just won't leave  this alone.  Most airliner 
>> ditchings
>> aren't very  successful since they take place on the open ocean with
>> wind,
>> rough seas, swells and rescue boats are hours or days  away.  This one
>> happened in
>> fresh smooth water, landing  with the current and the rescue boats were
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>> picking  people up while they were still climbing out of the  airplane.
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>> also happened on a cold winter day when  all the pleasure boats were
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>> Had this happened  in July it would be pretty hard not to whack a couple
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>> little boats.  Sully did a nice job but so would 95% of  the other pilots
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>> Don't be  surprised if the Airbus fly by wire computers didn't put a
>> perfectly good airplane in the water.   In a older  generation airplane
>> like the 727
>> or  737 300/400  the throttles are hooked to the fuel controllers on the
>> engine by a steel throttle cable just like a TBM or a  Comanche.  On the
>> Airbus
>> nothing in the cockpit is  real.  Everything is electronic.  The
>> throttles,
>> rudder and brake pedals and the side stick are hooked to  rheostats who
>> talk to
>> a computer who talks to a electric  hydraulic servo valve which in turn
>> hopefully moves  something.
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>> In a older generation airplane when you  hit birds the engines keep
>> screaming
>> or they blow up but  they don't both roll back to idle simultaneously 
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>> happened to Flt. 1549.  All it would take is for bird  guts to plug a
>> pressure
>> sensor or knock the pitot probe off  or plug it and the computers would
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>> the engines back to  idle thinking they were over boosting because the
>> computers  were getting bad data.   The Airbus is a real pile of  shit. 
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>> riding on them.
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>> Google  Airbus A320 Crash at the Paris Airshow in  1998.  Watch the video
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>> an airbus A320 crash into a  forest because the computers wouldn't allow 
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>> power increase  following a low pass.  The computers wouldn't allow a
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>> increase because they determined that the airspeed was  too low for the
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>> requested so the computers didn't  give them any.  Pushing the throttles
>> forward in a  Airbus does nothing more than request a power increase from
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>> computer.  If the computer doesn't like all the  airplane and engine
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>> couldn't defend themselves.  A Boeing would still be  flying.
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