Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

Hmmm.....

Let's see:  70000 hrs in 10 years works out
to 19 hours per day, every day.

I hope he's a better pilot than mathematician.

Hans.

2009/2/13 clyde romero <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>:
> Its total Bullshit
> This guys doesn't know his ass from 3rd base.
> The Airbus has a cable rudder and has never experienced a triple failure of
> its flight computers
> I have been an airbus pilot since 1999 with over 70000hrs of 319,320,321,330
> time.
> It's the safest airplane flying
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> Clyde
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich [mailto:Rich355 [at] comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:10 PM
> To: clyde
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> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news
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>> Any guesses what the culprit was on last nights event?  Tail lock up?
>> DOUG
>> ===============
>
> So far it has all the same indications as that 1994 ATR 72 crash in Indiana
> of loss of control over ice perhaps. Planes slow down on final and have less
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> airspeed margin to  overcome any slight ice accumulation on lift surfaces.
> One wing can stall before the other leading to a spin entry and  vertical
> dive like last night. If i had to bet my 401 k on it now, i would lean to
> that cause.
> Rich
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>> From: <Red5hilser [at] aol.com>
>> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:50 PM
>> Subject: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news
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>>> Hey Capt'n cLyDe: So . . . what's yer opinion on this. Sully did an
>>> outstanding piece of flying to get everybody home safe and sound, IMHO.
>>> It's not
>>> about him, but the Airbus instead.
>>>
>>> Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
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>>>>From a friend of a friend.....
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>>> Might find this interesting about  the Airbus crash.  Got this forwarded
>>> from
>>> a friend who has been a  lifelong pilot and aviation buff, and obviously
>>> he
>>> got from some of his  aircraft friends.  I've heard others complain about
>>> "fly
>>> by wire" and  "computer controlled airplanes"............another
>>> perspective.
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>>> EVERYONE:  Eric is a retired US Air pilot and a judge  at OSH each
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>>> Interesting  what he thinks of Air Bus??? I had asked him if he knew the
>>> pilot Sully .. Crash
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>>> Hello  Crash:
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>>> Actually it's Hudson  river fame.  I didn't know him.  I've seen  him in
>>> the
>>> crew room and around the system but never met  him.  He was former PSA
>>> and
>>> I
>>> was  former Piedmont and we never had the occasion to  fly together.
>>>
>>> The dumb shit press just won't leave  this alone.  Most airliner
>>> ditchings
>>> aren't very  successful since they take place on the open ocean with
>>> wind,
>>> rough seas, swells and rescue boats are hours or days  away.  This one
>>> happened in
>>> fresh smooth water, landing  with the current and the rescue boats were
>>> there
>>> picking  people up while they were still climbing out of the  airplane.
>>> It
>>> also happened on a cold winter day when  all the pleasure boats were
>>> parked.
>>> Had this happened  in July it would be pretty hard not to whack a couple
>>> of
>>> little boats.  Sully did a nice job but so would 95% of  the other pilots
>>> in the
>>> industry.
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>>> Don't be  surprised if the Airbus fly by wire computers didn't put a
>>> perfectly good airplane in the water.   In a older  generation airplane
>>> like the 727
>>> or  737 300/400  the throttles are hooked to the fuel controllers on the
>>> engine by a steel throttle cable just like a TBM or a  Comanche.  On the
>>> Airbus
>>> nothing in the cockpit is  real.  Everything is electronic.  The
>>> throttles,
>>> rudder and brake pedals and the side stick are hooked to  rheostats who
>>> talk to
>>> a computer who talks to a electric  hydraulic servo valve which in turn
>>> hopefully moves  something.
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>>> In a older generation airplane when you  hit birds the engines keep
>>> screaming
>>> or they blow up but  they don't both roll back to idle simultaneously
>>> like
>>> happened to Flt. 1549.  All it would take is for bird  guts to plug a
>>> pressure
>>> sensor or knock the pitot probe off  or plug it and the computers would
>>> roll
>>> the engines back to  idle thinking they were over boosting because the
>>> computers  were getting bad data.   The Airbus is a real pile of  shit.
>>> I
>>> don't like
>>> riding on them.
>>>
>>> Google  Airbus A320 Crash at the Paris Airshow in  1998.  Watch the video
>>> of
>>> an airbus A320 crash into a  forest because the computers wouldn't allow
>>> a
>>> power increase  following a low pass.  The computers wouldn't allow a
>>> power
>>> increase because they determined that the airspeed was  too low for the
>>> increase
>>> requested so the computers didn't  give them any.  Pushing the throttles
>>> forward in a  Airbus does nothing more than request a power increase from
>>> the
>>> computer.  If the computer doesn't like all the  airplane and engine
>>> parameters you
>>> don't get a power  increase.   Airbus blamed the dead crew since they
>>> couldn't defend themselves.  A Boeing would still be  flying.
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