Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news

[Brian Keegan (bks281]

Was that the sugar coated version cLyDe?> From: clyderomero [at] 
worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:46:01 -0500> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 
Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news> CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> To: bks281 
[at] hotmail.com> > You’re an idiot Hans> My flight kit has more brains than 
you do > I fly an average of 85 hrs / month per year for pay> You don’t work 
every day Hans > We also have vacation etc!> Jesus !> You do the math > People 
like your self have problems with Velcro > And pouring sand out of show with 
instructions on the heel!> > > > > Clyde> > Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.> Manpad SME> 
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-----Original Message-----> From: Hans E. Hansen [mailto:FList [at] 
hanshansen.org] > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:08 PM> To: clyde> Cc: The 
FerrariList> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news> > 
Hmmm.....> > Let's see: 70000 hrs in 10 years works out> to 19 hours per day, 
every day.> > I hope he's a better pilot than mathematician.> > Hans.> > 
2009/2/13 clyde romero <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>:> > Its total 
Bullshit> > This guys doesn't know his ass from 3rd base.> > The Airbus has a 
cable rudder and has never experienced a triple failure> of> > its flight 
computers> > I have been an airbus pilot since 1999 with over 70000hrs of> 
319,320,321,330> > time.> > It's the safest airplane flying> >> >> >> >> > 
Clyde> >> > Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.> > Manpad SME> > Clyderomero [at] 
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transmission.> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Rich 
[mailto:Rich355 [at] comcast.net]> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:10 PM> > 
To: clyde> > Cc: The FerrariList> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... 
more bad news> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Doug and Terri 
Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>> > To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>> > Cc: 
"The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 
2009 4:02 PM> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news> >> >> >> 
Any guesses what the culprit was on last nights event? Tail lock up?> >> DOUG> 
>> ===============> >> > So far it has all the same indications as that 1994 
ATR 72 crash in> Indiana> > of loss of control over ice perhaps. Planes slow 
down on final and have> less> >> > airspeed margin to overcome any slight ice 
accumulation on lift surfaces.> > One wing can stall before the other leading 
to a spin entry and vertical> > dive like last night. If i had to bet my 401 k 
on it now, i would lean to> > that cause.> > Rich> >> >> ----- Original Message 
-----> >> From: <Red5hilser [at] aol.com>> >> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>> 
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>> >> Sent: Friday, 
February 13, 2009 12:50 PM> >> Subject: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad 
news> >>> >>> >>> Hey Capt'n cLyDe: So . . . what's yer opinion on this. Sully 
did an> >>> outstanding piece of flying to get everybody home safe and sound, 
IMHO.> >>> It's not> >>> about him, but the Airbus instead.> >>>> >>> Yer pal, 
Ferrari Bubba> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From a friend of a friend.....> >>>> >>>> >> 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > 
--> >>> 
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>>>> >>> Might find this interesting about the Airbus crash. Got this 
forwarded> >>> from> >>> a friend who has been a lifelong pilot and aviation 
buff, and obviously> >>> he> >>> got from some of his aircraft friends. I've 
heard others complain> about> >>> "fly> >>> by wire" and "computer controlled 
airplanes"............another> >>> perspective.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> EVERYONE: 
Eric is a retired US Air pilot and a judge at OSH each> >>> yr..and> >>> a> >>> 
close friend.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Interesting what he thinks of 
Air Bus??? I had asked him if he knew the> >>> pilot Sully .. Crash> >>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> 
____________________________________> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hello 
Crash:> >>>> >>> Actually it's Hudson river fame. I didn't know him. I've seen 
him in> >>> the> >>> crew room and around the system but never met him. He was 
former PSA> >>> and> >>> I> >>> was former Piedmont and we never had the 
occasion to fly together.> >>>> >>> The dumb shit press just won't leave this 
alone. Most airliner> >>> ditchings> >>> aren't very successful since they take 
place on the open ocean with> >>> wind,> >>> rough seas, swells and rescue 
boats are hours or days away. This one> >>> happened in> >>> fresh smooth 
water, landing with the current and the rescue boats were> >>> there> >>> 
picking people up while they were still climbing out of the airplane.> >>> It> 
>>> also happened on a cold winter day when all the pleasure boats were> >>> 
parked.> >>> Had this happened in July it would be pretty hard not to whack a 
couple> >>> of> >>> little boats. Sully did a nice job but so would 95% of the 
other> pilots> >>> in the> >>> industry.> >>>> >>> Don't be surprised if the 
Airbus fly by wire computers didn't put a> >>> perfectly good airplane in the 
water. In a older generation airplane> >>> like the 727> >>> or 737 300/400 the 
throttles are hooked to the fuel controllers on the> >>> engine by a steel 
throttle cable just like a TBM or a Comanche. On the> >>> Airbus> >>> nothing 
in the cockpit is real. Everything is electronic. The> >>> throttles,> >>> 
rudder and brake pedals and the side stick are hooked to rheostats who> >>> 
talk to> >>> a computer who talks to a electric hydraulic servo valve which in 
turn> >>> hopefully moves something.> >>>> >>> In a older generation airplane 
when you hit birds the engines keep> >>> screaming> >>> or they blow up but 
they don't both roll back to idle simultaneously> >>> like> >>> happened to 
Flt. 1549. All it would take is for bird guts to plug a> >>> pressure> >>> 
sensor or knock the pitot probe off or plug it and the computers would> >>> 
roll> >>> the engines back to idle thinking they were over boosting because 
the> >>> computers were getting bad data. The Airbus is a real pile of shit.> 
>>> I> >>> don't like> >>> riding on them.> >>>> >>> Google Airbus A320 Crash 
at the Paris Airshow in 1998. Watch the> video> >>> of> >>> an airbus A320 
crash into a forest because the computers wouldn't allow> >>> a> >>> power 
increase following a low pass. The computers wouldn't allow a> >>> power> >>> 
increase because they determined that the airspeed was too low for the> >>> 
increase> >>> requested so the computers didn't give them any. Pushing the 
throttles> >>> forward in a Airbus does nothing more than request a power 
increase> from> >>> the> >>> computer. If the computer doesn't like all the 
airplane and engine> >>> parameters you> >>> don't get a power increase. Airbus 
blamed the dead crew since they> >>> couldn't defend themselves. A Boeing would 
still be flying.> >>>> >>> Eric> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 
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