Re: Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news
From: Ferrarisimo [at] Comcast.net (Ferrarisimocomcast.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:24:35 -0800 (PST)
and speeling

scottie

On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:46 PM, clyde romero wrote:

You’re an idiot Hans
My flight kit has more brains than you do
I fly an average of 85 hrs / month per year for pay
You don’t work every day Hans
We also have vacation etc!
Jesus !
You do the math
People like your self have problems with Velcro
And pouring sand out of show with instructions on the heel!




Clyde

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hans E. Hansen [mailto:FList [at] hanshansen.org]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:08 PM
To: clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news

Hmmm.....

Let's see:  70000 hrs in 10 years works out
to 19 hours per day, every day.

I hope he's a better pilot than mathematician.

Hans.

2009/2/13 clyde romero <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>:
Its total Bullshit
This guys doesn't know his ass from 3rd base.
The Airbus has a cable rudder and has never experienced a triple failure
of
its flight computers
I have been an airbus pilot since 1999 with over 70000hrs of
319,320,321,330
time.
It's the safest airplane flying




Clyde

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:Rich355 [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:10 PM
To: clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news


----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news


Any guesses what the culprit was on last nights event? Tail lock up?
DOUG
===============

So far it has all the same indications as that 1994 ATR 72 crash in
Indiana
of loss of control over ice perhaps. Planes slow down on final and have
less

airspeed margin to overcome any slight ice accumulation on lift surfaces. One wing can stall before the other leading to a spin entry and vertical dive like last night. If i had to bet my 401 k on it now, i would lean to
that cause.
Rich

----- Original Message -----
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To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news


Hey Capt'n cLyDe: So . . . what's yer opinion on this. Sully did an
outstanding piece of flying to get everybody home safe and sound, IMHO.
It's not
about him, but the Airbus instead.

Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba



From a friend of a friend.....



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Might find this interesting about the Airbus crash. Got this forwarded
from
a friend who has been a lifelong pilot and aviation buff, and obviously
he
got from some of his  aircraft friends.  I've heard others complain
about
"fly
by wire" and  "computer controlled airplanes"............another
perspective.



































EVERYONE:  Eric is a retired US Air pilot and a judge  at OSH each
yr..and
a
close friend.






Interesting what he thinks of Air Bus??? I had asked him if he knew the
pilot Sully .. Crash












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Hello  Crash:

Actually it's Hudson river fame. I didn't know him. I've seen him in
the
crew room and around the system but never met him. He was former PSA
and
I
was former Piedmont and we never had the occasion to fly together.

The dumb shit press just won't leave  this alone.  Most airliner
ditchings
aren't very successful since they take place on the open ocean with
wind,
rough seas, swells and rescue boats are hours or days away. This one
happened in
fresh smooth water, landing with the current and the rescue boats were
there
picking people up while they were still climbing out of the airplane.
It
also happened on a cold winter day when all the pleasure boats were
parked.
Had this happened in July it would be pretty hard not to whack a couple
of
little boats.  Sully did a nice job but so would 95% of  the other
pilots
in the
industry.

Don't be surprised if the Airbus fly by wire computers didn't put a perfectly good airplane in the water. In a older generation airplane
like the 727
or 737 300/400 the throttles are hooked to the fuel controllers on the engine by a steel throttle cable just like a TBM or a Comanche. On the
Airbus
nothing in the cockpit is  real.  Everything is electronic.  The
throttles,
rudder and brake pedals and the side stick are hooked to rheostats who
talk to
a computer who talks to a electric hydraulic servo valve which in turn
hopefully moves  something.

In a older generation airplane when you  hit birds the engines keep
screaming
or they blow up but they don't both roll back to idle simultaneously
like
happened to Flt. 1549. All it would take is for bird guts to plug a
pressure
sensor or knock the pitot probe off or plug it and the computers would
roll
the engines back to idle thinking they were over boosting because the computers were getting bad data. The Airbus is a real pile of shit.
I
don't like
riding on them.

Google  Airbus A320 Crash at the Paris Airshow in  1998.  Watch the
video
of
an airbus A320 crash into a forest because the computers wouldn't allow
a
power increase following a low pass. The computers wouldn't allow a
power
increase because they determined that the airspeed was too low for the
increase
requested so the computers didn't give them any. Pushing the throttles forward in a Airbus does nothing more than request a power increase
from
the
computer. If the computer doesn't like all the airplane and engine
parameters you
don't get a power increase. Airbus blamed the dead crew since they
couldn't defend themselves.  A Boeing would still be  flying.

Eric









































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