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| Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 08:09:44 -0700 (PDT) | |
Hey cLyDe: Did you used to hang around with?Max Mosley in the old days? Just wondering, yer pal, Ferrari Bubba -----Original Message----- From: phil Subject: [Ferrari] Thanks Clyde Clyde "It is what it is my friend Take care and stay in touch" As usual, you are right on, and in fact, I was probably so far down in the dumps yesterday that I needed some where to vent........I know that I am getting older, I know that things change and, I do not blame any one for buying a Ferrari only because they can....I just wish that they better understood what they are buying. We used to say The more things change the more they stay the same, maybe that is only true in politics today,.......... any one know who that quote is from? Tomorrow AM I will leave at first light to spend at least the day sailing with my son and maybe my older grand son ( almost 4) and by the end of the day and a couple of cold beers I will be OK all over again. As for staying in touch, you couldn't pay me to leave this list, ( OK, maybe you could, but I am not cheap or easy ). Thanks, Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net Date: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:24 am Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales tax To: Phil Tegmar <philville [at] dejazzd.com> Cc: FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Come on Phil youi and I know that bunch of guys left when > Ferrari started selling the 355 The Peoples Car > > I am not saying its a bad thing but when the "M" gang goal was > to sell 5K cars a year > The whole face of it changed for Ferrari > > Most guus even those with deep pockets stayed away from Ferrari > because they thought they were not reliable > Hence Ferrari did that around the world tour with a car ! > Remember that? > Well that fixed that alright and" here come the clowns" as Frank > Sinatra would say! > > Sorry to say Phil but none of those names mean anything to most > listersThey are too young! > And that's ok too > Most bought the car because they could end of story! > They don't have a clue about the past they live for today or > better yet tomorrow! > They have no knowledge of the Cobra Ferrari wars of the 60's > they weren't born! > Or the LeMans Battles with Ford in the late 60's as well. > They couldn't pick out John Surtees helmet from a Phil Hills helmet > (Look at them now on the interenet trying to find out) > > Can't hold it against them Phil they don't know and don't > want to know! > They just want it red and cute and different aka the GM Fiero! > > They don't know that Ferrari means 12cylinders and that they > only made the 8 cylinder cars to sell to the masses > > Phil we must get together this summer when I am in Philly > We are the old guard > Sad but true > It is what it is my friend > Take care and stay in touch > All the best > > > Clyde > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com> > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:03:18 > To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net> > Cc: FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National > Sales tax > > > > OK, break out the flame throwers, but, I am not > quite certain that > owning a Ferrari today means the same thing to many > of the owners as > it did even 5 to 10 years ago.... > At one time it was a goal, a goal that few ever > anticipated accomplishing, the enthusiasts were > consumed with owning a Ferrari now > I fear that many are only consumed with consuming > and owning....how > many people (owners / enthusiasts ) know the serial > number of their > car? How many can actually recite much of the > history of the car or > know what the history of the drivers were who was > Phil Hill or > Grahm Hill or the Rodriguez bros.....and don't even > think about the > truly incredible men who raced these cars in the > 40's and 50's.....or > about Ferraris efforts at Indy........ > > Where is the passion? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com > Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:43 pm > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US > National Sales tax > To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> > Cc: FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > > I've thought about that too. Ferrari owners are > by definition > > unique. And unique isn't allowed in a > socialist system. Hummm... > > > > Rick > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net> > > > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:54:51 > > To: rolindsay<rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > > Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % > US National > > Sales tax > > > > > > I used to think that most people here on this NG > already owned a > > Ferrari or > > were inspired to own one in the future and were > likely saving up > > for the big > > day when they could take possession of one. I > didn't realize > > that there > > would be so many who would rather give more of > their income to > > the BO ,so he > > can redistribute it to whatever group of people > that BO > > desires, instead of > > them keeping as much of their hard earned money > as they can. I > > don't see > > how BO's confiscation of more of their income > would help them > > get to own a > > Ferrari any faster. But then maybe it's just me > being selfish > > for not > > wanting to buy any more illegal aliens their free > helath care. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Morris" <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com> > > To: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net> > > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > > Sent: Thursday, May 2 8, 2009 5:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % > US National > > Sales tax > > > > > > >I hate to say it, but thinking that BO was going > to take it I > > had already > > >started working out moving our operation off > shore. So, > > his tax increase > > >will likely see my taxes drop by 10's of K per > year. Yeah- > > that increase > > >will pan our really well for him. > > > > > > And it is not a matter of being selfish, as > most of the have- > > nots seem to > > > think. Most of them are the will-nots, > which is why they > > are have-nots. > > > I have no problem helping those that are can- > nots- they > > absolutely need > > > the help. I also have no problem in > helping to supply a > > safety net for > > > those that unexpectedly, and through no fault > of their own, > > fall on hard > > > times. But that latter group will also be > in need short- > > term, and not > > > decide to live off of the social system. > Unfortunately, > the Democrats are > > > generally socialist minded individuals, and our > current Pres I > > would have > > > to say has at least one foot into > communism. Just how > > much private > > > business is our government taking over now? > > > > > > Incidentally, I too have lived in two > systems. Socialism > > simply does not > > > work, and for the reasons previously > stated. It is great > > in theory, but > > > falls apart when you bring the human element > into it. I > > say open the > > > border to the north, give people the choice of > socialism or > > capitalism > > > (heck, the capitalist side can even pay to move > the socialists > > north), and > > > then lock the border up tight. Lets see > who makes it > > through the year. > > > > > > (getting down off the soap box and waiting to > see who is up next) > > > > > > Big R > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 3:43 PM > > > To: Rick Morris > > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 > % US National > > Sales tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No sir. You are the rick with the BIG R! > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Rick Morris > <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com> > wrote:> > > >> From: Rick Morris <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com> > > >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 > % US National > > Sales tax > > >> To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > > >> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > > >> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:37 PM > > >> Have I been demoted to just 'the > > >> other Rick' now? ;-) > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> > > >> From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com] > > >> Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 3:11 PM > > >> To: Rick Morris > > >> Cc: The FerrariList > > >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 > % US > > >> National Sales tax > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hello Friends, > > >> We are obviously of mixed minds > > >> here. Discussions like this are often > contested > >> between the "haves" and the "have- > nots". I'm not sure > > >> that's the case here in FList land. Most > of us 'have' > > >> to some degree. Hummm... > > >> > > >> I think it just comes down > to the fact > > >> that those of us who went to school for a > zillion years, > > >> have worked hard all of our lives at good > jobs, paid our > > >> bills, paid our taxes, have a little coin > tucked away and > > >> have no debt - are being told that we don't > deserve anything > > >> that we have and that we need to redistribute > it to the > > >> people who did NOT study, work, pay bills, pay > taxes and > > >> save - just so that we can all be equals at > some low, > > >> marginally acceptable level. That just > does not work > > >> for me. One doesn't get from life what one > > >> deserves. One gets what one works > for. (Please > > >> pardon the preposition at the end of the sentence.) > > >> > > >> I know I'm a hard-ass when > it comes to > > >> this but I've seen both sides. I grew up poor, > > >> descended from an even poorer Scottish > family. I have > > >> relatives who do NOTHING but whine - at least > when their > > >> Oxycontin starts to wear off - and they get > more government > > >> money than any of us - for doing absolutely NOTHING. > > >> They're ignorant and proud of it, living a > lifestyle of "Why > > >> work if I can get government money for > free?" That > > >> attitude is why communism and socialism does > not work. > > >> I've lived in Russia and have seen it first > hand. I > > >> don't care if Tim Geitner says, "Soon we won't > care how much > > >> money we earn. We'll care about how we live." > > >> That's just naive (and/or more likely, > intended for ears > > >> other than ours). Hummm... > > >> > > >> Socialism feels very "moral > high-ground" > > >> in concept but it fails because it is counter > to basic > > >> evolutionary forces. Life wants to > survive and > > >> replicate, even if at the expense of > others. We want > > >> to win the race/game/contest even though > someone else has to > > >> loose. Its how life works. Just > look at what > > >> people watch on network TV! We have to > compete and we > > >> like to win! Winning upsets the balance > that socialism > > >> tries to establish. > > >> > > >> The system being forced upon > us now is > > >> counter to all of that. Its like saying > that all the > > >> F1 teams can compete but no one is allowed to win. > > >> They must all be equals. Someone should > take all of > > >> Toyota, Ferrari and McLaren's money and give > it to Force > > >> India so that all of the teams will be > equals. This > > >> concept violates the Great Truth of the > Universe Rule #14: > > >> "No two anythings were ever created > equal." That > > >> includes us, brothers. > > >> > > >> rick (That's rick with a small "r", not the > other Rick with > > >> the big "R") > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > > >> visit: > > >> > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rick.morris%40bre whaus.com>> > > >> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > >> and F1 Headlines > > >> http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > > >> visit: > > >> > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo .com>> > > >> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > >> and F1 Headlines > > >> http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/forza355%40verizo n.net> > > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > > and F1 Headlines > > > http ://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo .com > > > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > and F1 Headlines > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz zd.com > > > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > and F1 Headlines > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier > 39 Churchill Drive, Elverson Pa 19520 > 610.525.8949 > Save these dates: > September 12th & 13th 100 Motorcars of Radnor Hunt > fantastic 2 day event ......www.radnorconcours.org > ........ _________________________________________ > September the 27th Garden State Ferrari Fall > Festival __________________________________________ > And of course, go to: > ................www.PhilvilleUSA.com Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier 39 Churchill Drive, Elverson Pa 19520 610.525.8949 Save these dates: September 12th & 13th 100 Motorcars of Radnor Hunt fantastic 2 day event ......www.radnorconcours.org ........ _________________________________________ September the 27th Garden State Ferrari Fall Festival __________________________________________ And of course, go to: ................www.PhilvilleUSA.com _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlines http://www.F1Headlines.com/
- Re: NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales tax, (continued)
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- Re: NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales tax philville dejazzd.com, May 28 2009
- Re: NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales tax clyderomero, May 29 2009
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- Re: Thanks Clyde red5hilser, May 29 2009
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